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_Ocean_Drive_
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Iwate
Mix house and trance together?

Ok, so I'm scheduled to DJ for the first time on Tuesday 8th November using Traktor and my mp3 collection

I have a question;

I'm going to be playing House and Trance, but I'm not sure if I should keep them separate, i.e. play first half of night as house and play 2nd as trance or should I just mix the two into each other?

I really don't have much House to play. I have tunes by people like G&D, Danny Howells, Gareth Emery, Clokx, Jam & Spoon, Swarm, Hydroid, Max Graham and Niklas Harding but think that maybe they might sound better as 'breather' tracks between the trancers.

So my question is, what do you do/what do you think sounds better when you listen to live sets with house and trance in?

Any suggestions would be HUGELY appreciated...

Many thanks in advance!


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Vlad
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Heres the thing, if you link Progressive House and Progressive Trance, you can go back and forth as you please, the only thing that might be aggrivating is wanting to go from a House track that 135 BPM to a trance track thats 140 BPM, but its definitely doable... since you have traktor, you can be creative with it.


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djdk
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: London

All depends on who is playing before/after you really. You need to keep in with the flow of the night ie if the guy before you is playing house and the guy after you is playing trance then tis probably best to play half and half.

Having said this, from your post it seems that your doing the whole night yourself, in thaat case you need to get some kind of flow going so you start with the slower, deeper stuff, then move on to more funky stuff then on to the more euphoric stuff, and you can quite happily go from house to trance

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_Ocean_Drive_
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Thank you both for your replies!

I am doing the whole night. My Univeristy Student Union is generally crap, and I've been trying for 2 years to get an EDM night under-way and now it's finally here I want to make it good!

I think I'm warming to the idea of mixing them both in together; starting with the down-tempo and working up to full-on trancers.

Like I said, I'm lacking on the house front. Has anyone got any good suggestions for tracks that are guarunteed to get the crowd moving??


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Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time.

There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Boomer187
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i always find its better to go house and into trance, then you can go between prog trance and prog house. house just seems to feel better when people are filtering in, they can kinda sway to it, and start dancing to it. Then if you have em liking your stuff you can go to more trance with some breakdowns n such.


just read the crowd, if they all leave, either they are tired, getting a drink, or they hate that song.


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Vlad
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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
Thank you both for your replies!

I am doing the whole night. My Univeristy Student Union is generally crap, and I've been trying for 2 years to get an EDM night under-way and now it's finally here I want to make it good!

I think I'm warming to the idea of mixing them both in together; starting with the down-tempo and working up to full-on trancers.

Like I said, I'm lacking on the house front. Has anyone got any good suggestions for tracks that are guarunteed to get the crowd moving??



I started making a list, but really... its hard to tell you exact tracks without knowing the kind of house youre looking for.


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_Ocean_Drive_
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Stuff like Danny Howells feat Erica - Breathe (Cella Dwellers)

Gareth Emery - Tribalism

Darren Tate - Sun is Shining down on me


List would be amazing!! Thank You!!


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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time.

There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Gabi Newman- The Bird


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MindsDesire
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Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Oregon, USA

Theres no "rule" on what you can and can't mix. That being said, we really cant TELL you what's gonna make a good set. Ultimately, It's gonna be up to your skill, and your decision as to what makes it a good night.

Say you put on some house. It's terrible, the floor hates it. You quickly blend to more house, and the floor starts to clear out. What do you do then? You'd better not stick on ANOTHER house song, and that's the point. You have to feel out the situation, find what the floor needs, and deliver it.

On the flipside, if you start throwing on house, and it's a total hit, keep going with it! Don't take away something great just because your trance albums are getting proverbially dusty.

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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

Mox Codeta - Fresh
Eric Prydz - Aftermath
Richard Grey - Be Good
Da Flex - Hardware
Sucker Djs - Disco Bomb
Max Graham - Automatic Weapon
Max Coleman feat. Laura Vane - Inside Out
Alter Ego - Rocker (Eric Prydz Remix)
Mannequins - Need to Love you (Robbie Rivera Remix)
Ian Carey and Mochico - Say what you want (Dub Mix)
Paul Bingham - Buzz (Robbie Rivera Tribal Mix)
Ri Tek - Electronic Interferance
Porno Vs Hannah Jones - Time 2 Move (Music Power)
Hentze and Brocke - Just still
Patrick Alavi - Hell Yeah
First Optional Deal - Stockholm 2 Paris
The Drill - The Drill
Richard F feat. Michael Moog - Thrills Pills and Dafodills
Da Skunk - Hot Box (Antoine Clamaran Remix)
Vince J - Black Tube
DB Movement - Funk Shaker
Joseph Armani and Jan Fransisco - Infactuation
Steve Angello - Euro
Skeewiff - Man of constant sorrow (Ramirez Remix) Good for leading into a bit tougher.
Michel De Hey + M.I.R.K.O. - Another Dimension
Twin Pitch - Midnight Club
Who's Who - Not so Dirty
Wawa and Mad Mark - I'm in love (Main Mix)
DJ Sender - Fith Gear
Axwell and Ingrosso - Together (Tocadisco Mix) It's a bit scissor sisters but it works.
Gets noch (Steve Andello Remix)
Slut (Not sure who this is by, only got the whitelabel)
Mode Hookers - Instrumental
Futureshock - Late at night (Tomcraft remix) again good for bridging into tougher stuff
Tony Senghore - Peace (Sebastian Ingrosso Mix)

As for brdging the gap between house and trance you could try tracks like the following:

Penn + Chus - Esperanza (Valentino Kanzyani Remix)
Sander Klienenburg - Slipper Sleaze
Kay Stone - Alone (Mind Ones Edged Beat Mix)

Just a few tracks to get you started.

Ok, so there are no rules as to what you can and can't do... yeah right.


First up Always start lower in BPMs and work your way up. Don't be too keen to leave the house music. Make it progresively tougher and some of the tunes I listed for you should help you do that quite nicely. If something works and people are into it, stick with it for a while as hopefully you will get more people dancing.
Don't be put off by the requests for Hip Hop (If you are in the US)EDIT: (I see you are in the UK) try and compromise and put on a house mix of something that kinda goes that way. But don't do it if it will interupt your flow.

Once you get past house and into prog tease people with some tracks that have breakdowns like trance to see if they are ready for it as you may find that you get some frustrated looks from your crowd, if that's the case they are not ready for it yet.

When you do get onto the more driving/banging stuff don't kill them with breakdown after breakdown. Try and keep some momentum going and play some more high energy stuff until you can see that a breakdown would sit nicely.

Remember this is only a guide line and not a rule but it's a pretty accepted way of working in a lot of clubs.
Also if you are working with other DJs try and tap into what they are doing and complement it if it's working. If it's not change the flow and do what you feel is right.

Cheers
Nem


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_Ocean_Drive_
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Iwate

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Cheers
Nem


z0mg!!! Thank you so much for that!

Will definitely be looking into some of those tracks online! Many, many thanks!!

keep this coming people, this is so helpful!


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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike
Social outcasts are often of the opinion that they must have a drink before being able to loosen up with their inhibitions, thus being able to have a good time.

There's a word that sums up this sort of behaviour, and that word is 'reject.'

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Sly_Guy
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: On one of Peterman's adventures

it's all about reading the crowd. Personally, I'd want to go from deep house to progressive then to trance if I had your record collection, but I wouldn't be too set into how I'm going to play. Like it was mentioned above, feel out what the crowd wants, and play to them to the best your record collection will allow, and the best of your ability.

Another thing, if you are playing for a non-EDM crowd [as I've done a couple times at my buddy's university pub], don't even bother breaking out the hard stuff. As much as I'd have loved to play some great tribal on those nights, I just know playing it will empty the floor, so instead I'll play remixes of tracks they already know. It may not be what I wat to hear, but it's a good compromise for what I have as a DJ, and what they want to hear.

EX: Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body [Sander K remix]


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