Bah I'm so dyslexaic, I can't even ask a poll question grammatically:
"What were you do about Iran?" should be "What would you do about Iran?"

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I would seriously let them make nukes its none of my business and if their nukes are used against any country or if they sell nukes to terror organizations I would than put sanctions on Iran. But I prefer a slow death rather than a fast death from a nuke. The Iranian people would suffer and than hopefully the people will smarten up and overthrow their extremist government.

Let the Iranians have their nukes, point all of ours at them and see if they have the balls to shoot. The tension will build and build until somebody finally decides to chill the fuck out.

That is unless they truly are doing this only for electricity, then everything will be ok unless they fuck up and meltdown.

I'm not saying this as a serious recomandation but more on a personal level, the whole ordeal could be quite entertaining, I'm one of those kids who enjoys watching shit hit the fan. That and I have this crazy notion in my head that the more widely available this destructive power becomes the more people might wise up and decide they are better off without it(terrorists being the exception, they don't show any sign of wising up about anything).

If it were my responsibility I would certainly not handle it like that, it is just they way I would enjoy seeing it. The idea that radioactive material might fall into terrorist hands through Iran is indeed quite scary and that would keep me from just letting them have it, but I also don't want another war, Iran would probably make one that is quite bloody.

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Originally posted by Yoepus What do you all think about the current Iranian situation? What do you thinhk is the correct course of action? In my opinion I would: Go to the UN and attempt impose sanctions. If sanctiosn fail, launch a massive one night military strike taking out Irans nuclear and balistic capabilities.

Ideally, I would agree with this course of action.

But thanks to Bush and our lovely Iraq debacle, we really don't live in such an environment where ideal thoughts like this are realistic.

Judging by the comments of the other European countries who's talks with Iran have failed, I don't think we're gonna have any problems imposing sanctions on Iran. My problem is I don't think even sanctions are gonna slow this Iranian nutbag down from building a nuke.

But as for thinking about the next step should sanctions either fall through or not be enough, I really don't know if we'll have enough muster to launch a strategic strike. There's a lot of factors at play here - our credibility, our capability, the rest of the U.N. coming in with us and making this a multilateral attack, understanding the possible consequences of Iran's retialiation (i.e. Israel would likely be the target, IMO), and so on.

Hard to think that far down the road. But as of right now, I'm fully supportive of strict and harsh sanctions.

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No matter what you do (impose sanctions or not), they are going to have their nukes, and nothing can stop them (except pre-emptive strikes on nuclear facilties). And if their is any strike on their facilities than I think it has a major possibilty of blowing into full scale war this time.

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so give em what they want or full scale war? Is it better we fight now or after the death star is operational? (sorry)

I bet a modern full scale war would be quite horrifying, what does Iran want? Is war inevitable at his point?

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 so give em what they want or full scale war? Is it better we fight now or after the death star is operational? (sorry) I bet a modern full scale war would be quite horrifying, what does Iran want? Is war inevitable at his point?

You never know wether they genuinly want Civilian nuclear technology or they want nukes.

If you look at Iran, they are highly dependent on oil for their energy needs. They just want to get rid of their dependence on oil at present. I think making nuke comes much later on their mind. Whole world thinks they open up the facilities and Booom their they have nuclear bomb now. Its not like that. Let them go ahead with their plan to build Civilian nuclear facilities and infrastructure right now.

Maybe later on they will 'try to' make nukes, but you never know whether they will be successful at it or not.

Maybe they have success in making nukes and test fire it and it works! But than again they will never be stupid enough to use it, Israel is too close and 'they know' that any nuke strike on them will effect them too. They just want nukes to show Israel that they got one too, so better Israel behaves properly. Nuclear Bombs are more of a strategy nowdays than an actual war weapon. And Bush knows that Iran will get an upper edge over world politics after having nukes.

Any pre-emptive strike on Iran is like over-doing this whole thing.

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid if their nukes are used against any country or if they sell nukes to terror organizations I would than put sanctions on Iran.

Really.............

Some Lackey: Holy F*cking Sh*t Mr. President/Prime Minister/Who-ever. An Iranian nuke just detonated in our most populous city killing millions upon millions of innocent people.

Leader Dude: They did? Well dang, guess we better impose some sanctions on them. Hopefully the UN's bureaucracy can find a solution to this problem.

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Originally posted by Purple You never know wether they genuinly want Civilian nuclear technology or they want nukes.

You obviously have not kept up with the news on this whole issues. After recent developments (Iran's refusal to accept the Russian proposed uranium enrichment scheme) you have to be naive as a baby to believe Iran has no intent to develop this as nuclear weapons.


To the rest of you: If Iran wanted to develop nuclear weapons and was open and honest about it this is one thing. But the way they have approached it and insulted the international community is another. If Iran remains defiant of the consensus of the world and the world appeases its sense of outrage because of it and does nothing, then the world order we have today has indeed failed.

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Originally posted by Yoepus You obviously have not kept up with the news on this whole issues. After recent developments (Iran's refusal to accept the Russian proposed uranium enrichment scheme) you have to be naive as a baby to believe Iran has no intent to develop this as nuclear weapons.

Iran has one of world's largest oil resources but still they are dependant on outside world for their oil suply need. Why? Because they dont have large scale oil distillation technology. If US rapes Iran than Iran's petrol pumps will be the first to run out of gas.

So they are dependent on countries who import oil from them and than export it back to Iran in refined form.

This Russia uranium enrichment scheme is exactly the same thing. They will be dependant on Russia all their lives for providing enriched uranium to them, to run their facilities and economy.

Things dont work like this. You are running a country and not a company where you outsource your processes to other countries.

Who will gaurantee them enriched uranium when Russia goes blank like they did with Ukraine recently? Or you want Iran to sit without electricity and energy till Russia starts enriching uranium again for them.

Iran wants to be independant, and have an independant and reliable source of long term energy demands which is growing everyday.

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Look at what santions did to Iraq, thousands of kids killed by starvation/lack of medical supplies etc. I don't think sanctions would really work and they'll have horrible consequences like Iraq. Military strikes? Are you out of your f'n mind?

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