just remember that although we lost some 200 million over the sponsership scandel it is still probably cost us a hell of alot less then going to war in Iraq not to mention that at least we are not out there killing innocent civilians.

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i seriously dont think anyone would be stupid enough to vote conservative

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit i seriously dont think anyone would be stupid enough to vote conservative

Well they're in the lead nationally...

I think this thread is misleading and exemplifies a severe lack of understanding regarding the conservative party. Yes, this was the position of the party 2 years ago, however, it is not so currently. The position taken seems to rely on the assumption that the conservatives are a grass roots party that will do what their core supporters want regardless of the broader public opinion. This was true of the Reform party, however, the conservatives have graduated from being a grassroots party to being a brokerage party much like the Liberals. You can rest assured that the advisors in the conservative party recognize that the Canadian people want no truck or trade regarding the war in Iraq. Joining the occupation would certainly hurt them amongst the electorate and more importantly would signal to the red tories that the new party cannot be trusted and has not been moderated from their former more right wing incarnation. There is little to no reason one should fear that a Conservative victory would result in our military being deployed to Iraq.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Stingray Well they're in the lead nationally...

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By quite a large margin apparently.
I dunno, IMO I don't think they'll bring anything good to the average Canadian.

Stockwell Day should've had the leadership.

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That was the one thing i respected chretien for, standing up to the americans about iraq. it wasnt our war, and we did not need to fight it. and i think in retrospect, most will agree it was the right decision.

Well, talk about political ignorance.

Already gone over a few times that it would be a political suicide for Harper to get Canada actively involved in Iraq.

Canadian military is committed to Afghanistan for at least next few years anyways (2000 members starting this month) so it's not like Canada can come up with any troops to send.

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

It's the thought that counts. What if we did have the troops?

I don't want to vote for a party that makes value judgments based on what the voting population thinks. I want a government with critical thinking skills. I want them to bite the fucking bullet and go against ALL of Canada when it truly makes sense to do so. This goes for the liberals and the NDP. And that's why, I can't vote for anyone this election.

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Originally posted by psychosomatica It's the thought that counts. What if we did have the troops? I don't want to vote for a party that makes value judgments based on what the voting population thinks. I want a government with critical thinking skills. I want them to bite the fucking bullet and go against ALL of Canada when it truly makes sense to do so. This goes for the liberals and the NDP. And that's why, I can't vote for anyone this election.

I can understand your sentiment, however, only brokerage parties have any hope to form government (or even win the requisit number of seats to acheive official party status in parliament... with the exception of the Reform party). This country is far too fractured in it's ideological bases, interests, and values for a grassroots party to acheive wide spread support.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit i seriously dont think anyone would be stupid enough to vote conservative