rofl i have seen some of that stuff before!

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

That's awesome, I want some. Stupid DEA

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Originally posted by dj_bas That's awesome, I want some. Stupid DEA

I love the DEA. Forgive me if I sound ignorant, can't say I've ever used marijuana, but nothing I've never seen anything good come of the stuff. It bugs me to see so much money wasted on the stuff, and with my expereince I've seen really capable people dumb themselves into thinking that there is no consequences from using marijuana.

Everything in moderation.

Caffeine is a drug. Alcohol is a drug. Alcohol affects every cell in your body, and is one of the more destructive, universally damaging inebrients avaiable. Yet it's legal and is socially acceptable.

I've never seen a stoner or somebody on e pick a fight...or get into their car and drive like a maniac (but I have seen plenty of drunks do both).

Alcohol leads to a false sense of confidence and reduces judgment, characteristic of a dopamine agonist.

Personally, and I'm not sure that this will make sense, but I'd rather feel more fucked up than I am, than be more fucked up than I feel. This is why people smoking dope have the misfortune of being pulled over for driving too slow.

I like mind altering, mind expanding substances, which I don't believe are inherently dangerous, damaging, sinful or evil. I've got a lovely wife, a lovely daughter, a son on the way, and a career that puts me in an upper income strata nationwide.

Politically, I'm a libertarian, and I believe people should be able to make educated decisions about what to ingest, so long as they take responsibility for their actions and are informed as to the possible consequences.

Bottom line, legality or illegality says very little about the potential and actual harm caused by a particular substance. At the end of the day, if we were really concerned about harm reduction, there are other substances that are far less harmful than alcohol that could be made legal. Our jails are full of non-violent people whose only crimes are taking or trafficking in illegal substances.

The war on drugs is hypocritical, wasteful, and a complete failure.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally posted by Jefe928 Everything in moderation.

Agreed!!! Legality doesn't say very much about how harmful something is... however, many times it's not so much what the substance does as to where it leads.

I would go so far to say that the majority of the population has no concept of moderation though. Not only in illegal substances, but also with alcohol, coffee, tv, and 100 other things... All things in moderation is a great motto, but in practice doesn't seem to happen. I have seen this in my friends who are self-proclaimed "recreational users", their usage has always escalated over time, and often led to other more permantantly harming substances.

Trafficking drugs is a profitable business but by no means is it a 'peacefull' business as is illustrated by the two semi-autos found with the drugs.

I had a buddy that worked for the DEA, and he described some of the people he arrested for trafficking. They were killers, not to say that drugs made them that way, but just the lifestyle of most, I would say is quite ruthless (at least for the ones that are 'high up' so to speak; no pun intended). They are not the kind of people that I would ever want my (future) children to be influenced by.

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Originally posted by djnaeblis I love the DEA. Forgive me if I sound ignorant, can't say I've ever used marijuana, but nothing I've never seen anything good come of the stuff. It bugs me to see so much money wasted on the stuff, and with my expereince I've seen really capable people dumb themselves into thinking that there is no consequences from using marijuana.

this could be argued for days and days.
you didnt like it thats personal choice. but the effects of it are proven so you get something out of it.

its also proven that alcohol is more harmful than marijuana. plus marijuana normally consumed is as bad as cigarettes.

on top of that, we would save so much money by not having DEA and having drug legal. plus we would have less people smoking marijuana if its was legalized but enforced by regulations.

Jefe928, I guess you've never lost anyone (directly or indirectly) to a drunk driver or someone who was under the influence.

those oEo's look good

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Originally posted by Jefe928 Everything in moderation. Caffeine is a drug. Alcohol is a drug. Alcohol affects every cell in your body, and is one of the more destructive, universally damaging inebrients avaiable. Yet it's legal and is socially acceptable. I've never seen a stoner or somebody on e pick a fight...or get into their car and drive like a maniac. Alcohol leads to a false sense of confidence and reduces judgment, characteristic of a dopamine agonist. Personally, and I'm not sure that this will make sense, but I'd rather feel more fucked up than I am, than be more fucked up than I feel. This is why people smoking dope have the misfortune of being pulled over for driving too slow. I like mind altering, mind expanding substances, which I don't believe are inherently dangerous, damaging, sinful or evil. I've got a lovely wife, a lovely daughter, a son on the way, and a career that puts me in an upper income strata nationwide. Politically, I'm a libertarian, and I believe people should be able to make educated decisions about what to ingest, so long as they take responsibility for their actions and are informed as to the possible consequences. Bottom line, legality or illegality says very little about the potential and actual harm caused by a particular substance. At the end of the day, if we were really concerned about harm reduction, there are other substances that are far less harmful than alcohol that could be made legal. Our jails are full of non-violent people whose only crimes are taking or trafficking in illegal substances. The war on drugs is hypocritical, wasteful, and a complete failure. Just my 2 cents.

2-CI (2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine) is still legal. Get it while you can. It is grey list, it is a close cousin of 2-CB but hasn't been around long enough (2001) to be put on a schedule.

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Originally posted by Electrophile 2-CI (2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine) is still legal. Get it while you can. It is grey list, it is a close cousin of 2-CB but hasn't been around long enough (2001) to be put on a schedule.

IT'S FUCKING LEGAL!? How? That shit messed me up! I thought I was on the Death Star...turns out it was just Avalon

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ANALOGS MY FRIEND! Just take an existing drug and swap out functional groups (ex. swap out a bromine with an iodine or swap a methyl with an ethyl) until you can get a rat fucked up, then you take it. Since no one has ever used the drug how can it be illegal?

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