nice to see we are defending "freedom"

if anyone deserves citizenship here its this guy. Not that half baked idiot who was trying to extort it.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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Good times in Afghanistan!

And they wanted to implement that Sharia law shit here in Canada? Holy fuck.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Good times in Afghanistan! And they wanted to implement that Sharia law shit here in Canada? Holy fuck.

that was just political correctness run amok. Abolishing religious courts was about the only good thing mcguinty has done so far

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Good times in Afghanistan! And they wanted to implement that Sharia law shit here in Canada? Holy fuck.

it would still have to comply with Canadian law...no one would be killed for being a Christian

(FWIW, I don't support allowing it here either as it's ridiculously discriminatory against women)


I see now that the prosecutor is now contemplating not proceding with a trial, stating that the defendent may not be mentally fit. I think this is the convenient "out" that will be used to avoid further outrage in international community. good.

sharia law shouldnt be used because this is canada and we use canadian law. Not simply just because its discriminatory to women. Because in Canada you follow canadian rules and you are prosecuted the canadian way.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Because in Canada you follow canadian rules and you are prosecuted the canadian way.

crazy concept

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Good times in Afghanistan!

lol

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Originally posted by Jayx1 sharia law shouldnt be used because this is canada and we use canadian law. Not simply just because its discriminatory to women. Because in Canada you follow canadian rules and you are prosecuted the canadian way.

I don't see a problem with using it as alternate mediation, if both parties agree (since independent arbitration is already allowed in for other religious and cultural groups, such as for native peoples)...but it *must* be consistent with Canadian law and it must be entered into by both parties willingly and without duress.

One problem specific to using Sharia law here, some critics say, is the context under which it exists in other countries is itself inconsistent with Canadian law in that women face pressure from their communities and families to agree to it in lieu of going through the regular legal process (i.e. duress/coercion)...and that's unacceptable. At the very least, even independent Legal Aid representation would theoretically better serve the women's interests.

they are at least 500years behind the rest of the humanity

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Originally posted by MarkT I don't see a problem with using it as alternate mediation, if both parties agree (since independent arbitration is already allowed in for other religious and cultural groups, such as for native peoples)...but it *must* be consistent with Canadian law and it must be entered into by both parties willingly and without duress. One problem specific to using Sharia law here, some critics say, is the context under which it exists in other countries is itself inconsistent with Canadian law in that women face pressure from their communities and families to agree to it in lieu of going through the regular legal process (i.e. duress/coercion)...and that's unacceptable. At the very least, even independent Legal Aid representation would theoretically better serve the women's interests.

i do see a problem with it. Every treated equally under the law. No exceptions. If that is unacceptable then you shouldnt have moved here. And independent arbitration was actually outlawed recently and rightly so.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 i do see a problem with it. Every treated equally under the law. No exceptions. If that is unacceptable then you shouldnt have moved here. And independent arbitration was actually outlawed recently and rightly so.

source?

it's only religious-based arbitration that was not permitted...otherwise, for civil cases, independent arbitration is alive and well.

even in criminal law, there are co-operative efforts to this day between the courts and native groups to allow for trial and sentencing in accordance with native principles.

it's not problematic per se...but if the underlying context is inconsistent with Canadian law, such as women being clearly "2nd class" to men under Sharia law, then yes it is a problem.

if you and I have a civil matter and we both agree, without duress, to accept independent, 3rd party arbitration, that's between us.