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TranceNation1
WMC24Hrs of Fist pumping
Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Streamwood
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Thank God I didn't spend 75 bucks to see Tiesto b/c
his new stuff suck ! I would rather pay that kind
of money to see Armin any day !!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr-11-2007 14:10
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PatMcGroin
lost

Registered: Sep 2001
Location: here? there?
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Apr-11-2007 15:23
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nrjizer
vive le deep

Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bumfuck, GA
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Apr-11-2007 16:25
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tranceman 23
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2004
Location: L.P.FLA
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Sorry about that .Fri was good right?That was the way it was jan2 for tiesto.Next year i think ill go for SVD menno? B&J Cosmic Andy M.. Well see you next year!
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Apr-11-2007 18:16
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RzO
We get twisted!

Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Los Angeles...finally!
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| quote: | Originally posted by PatMcGroin
first it was oakenfold. now its tiesto. and some could argue pvd. next its armin. honestly, i believe that all the worlds "best" djs will at some point follow this pattern.
this is why one has to listen to what he likes and not what everyone else is ranting and raving about. |
that pattern they follow is called more money, waaaay more money, and in our world it always wins. but Neil had some good points! either way once a marketing giant and you become friends the tables go from being a dj and producing music u like, to this isn't gonna last forever so why don't we all get as rich as possible while doing it and do what makes the most, i mean its not like tiesto is like my shit sucks but i make more than any other dj in the world, so im a sellout, no! hes like i don't give a fuck, I'm rich bitch ( a lil dave chappelle there)
truthfully it ain't a bad gig, hell i think many people say what they will now, if approached would sell out, the negative connotation of the word sell out does not supersede the literal form of SELL, in which makes these guys rich
anyhow its good for the scene, without the notorious trance all-stars making all the money, the shit we see now in dance music probably would not have become possible, amd now some house dj's can demand alot of money, Morillo being the most analogous, so rock on tijs! anyhow all exposure of dance music that people spend money on is a good thing, because once theres no money it goes right back to shitty raves and clubbing in a rattletrap with speakers on sticks.
and i def touched him @ his setai party during wmc, and i know that some of would love to have done that...lol 
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Apr-12-2007 01:00
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Mattivi
Universal Clubber

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Nationwide
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Rzo makes some real valid points, most of us would probably do the same if in their shoes. the tiesto machine is pretty big now, and they obviously have the formula down pat, so i guess any deviation from that formula could mean a loss of dollars, and the tiesto machine has a lot of mouths to feed. But if i was a dj, i cant imagine doing a set in any other fashion but to rock the crowds socks off. most of tiesto's sets these days are geared to attract hordes of mindless noobs, play myriads of insipid tracks from a new album or to build on the "tiesto brand". im sure he does throw down a massive set or two a year(out of like 150gigs) that is worthy of praise, but there was a time when that was a regularity. the one thing that really chapped my ass is his clear lack of alegiance. LP and the Space Crew put down the red carpet every time his ass came to town for nearly four years, and played an integral part of his intial exposure and SUCCESS in North America, only for him to about face and take his circus act to mansion. alot of this had to do with the whole Global Gatherings, Ultra Fest battle of a year ago, but i think Tiesto really tanked his reputation here in Miami with that bogus move. oh well, it is what it is.
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Last edited by Mattivi on Apr-12-2007 at 17:29
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Apr-12-2007 02:49
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av1
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: miami, florida
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Anyone who went to this party instead of Armada Night got what they deserved, completely fucked over. But they only have themselves to blame.
Just compare the reviews.
Tiesto had his day, and he will definitely play good again and anyone there on such a night will be lucky. But because those nights are so few and far between it is not worth it to risk it.
And to claim that Tiesto HAS TO sell out in order to make money, or make his marketing people happy, or because of his marketing people, or because he is so big, is a fuckin joke and weak ass excuse. Are you seriously claiming that if he plays good he will not have any fans, lose money, lose marketing opportunites, end up working at McDonalds, etc. Well that is complete Bullshit. In fact the opposite is true. Because he has money, because he has status, he can tell any marketing person to fuck off and play whatever he wants to play. He hardly needs to be marketed or promoted, they need him not vice versa. Come on you know who can fire who in that business relationship.
Between 2000 and 2003 is when Tiesto was ripping the best sets around, and making everyone happy. And that is when his fanbase grew to extremes and his price per gig went through the roof as well. So history tells another story completely. He plays what he wants to play, not what anyone else makes him play. And right now it's shit, and it's on him, period.
And yes what he did to LP & Space may have been wrong in some people's opinions. But how many people has Space and LP done wrong. It's called Karma, and it evens shit out. And do not fool yourselves, LP & Space could have him if they really wanted him.
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Apr-12-2007 23:40
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