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Dilmeet
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I gotta give a speech Tuesday on Iraq War. Some questions

I gotta give a speech in class on Tuesday. it's suppose to be on a controversial issue, I chose the Iraq War. I noticed you guys talk a lot about politics here. I have to cite 10 historical sources (2 books, 2 mags, 2 newspaper, 2 internet and 2 whatever). I was wondering if any of you can point me the right way? Im doing massive research right now, but I have to alot of digging and it's very time consuming.

The speech is only on the historical aspect, my main goal is to bring the listeners up to the pros and cons of the speech, which is another speech im giving on friday!

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MisterOpus1
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Re: I gotta give a speech Tuesday on Iraq War. Some questions

quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet
I gotta give a speech in class on Tuesday. it's suppose to be on a controversial issue, I chose the Iraq War. I noticed you guys talk a lot about politics here. I have to cite 10 historical sources (2 books, 2 mags, 2 newspaper, 2 internet and 2 whatever). I was wondering if any of you can point me the right way? Im doing massive research right now, but I have to alot of digging and it's very time consuming.

The speech is only on the historical aspect, my main goal is to bring the listeners up to the pros and cons of the speech, which is another speech im giving on friday!


Your topic is unfortunately very broad indeed. There are many aspects within the topic itself that are controversial. You might want to narrow it down a bit more to a specific topic pertaining to the war in order to focus your speech and research a bit better. Do you have a particular subtopic of interest?


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Dilmeet
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hmm maybe these:

getting the troops in or out of iraq?
should we be having this war or not? < is what I like



yeah... I realized it was broad, but my professor didn't think so. I gotta give 3 speeches 1 historical (5 mins), 1 prons/cons (5 mins) and 1 persuasive speech(8 mins)

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MisterOpus1
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quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet
hmm maybe these:

getting the troops in or out of iraq?
should we be having this war or not? < is what I like



yeah... I realized it was broad, but my professor didn't think so. I gotta give 3 speeches 1 historical (5 mins), 1 prons/cons (5 mins) and 1 persuasive speech(8 mins)


Okay, we'll go with those two topics. Couple more questions - which one of these speeches do you have to give on Tuesday? And if you're speaking in terms of controversy, which "side" of the controversy will you be proposing?


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Dilmeet
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Okay, we'll go with those two topics. Couple more questions - which one of these speeches do you have to give on Tuesday? And if you're speaking in terms of controversy, which "side" of the controversy will you be proposing?



I have to give the historical one on Tuesday. I can't tell any members of the class which side I'am on until the 3rd speech (persuasive, which is 2 weeks from now).

This looks good:

Subject: Iraq War

Topic: War or not?

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Fir3start3r
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quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet
hmm maybe these:

getting the troops in or out of iraq?
should we be having this war or not? < is what I like



yeah... I realized it was broad, but my professor didn't think so. I gotta give 3 speeches 1 historical (5 mins), 1 prons/cons (5 mins) and 1 persuasive speech(8 mins)


I think I'd break it up into Pre / Post Saddam and choose one; there's certainly lots of juicy ways to slice each.

I'd stay away from anything too ambagious as it could stray from discussion and especially if you're ending with a persuasive speech.

There's LOTS of opinion and logic from all angles (MisterOpus1 is right, this topic is huge) so pick one you feel comfortable with and go with that.


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quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet
I have to give the historical one on Tuesday. I can't tell any members of the class which side I'am on until the 3rd speech (persuasive, which is 2 weeks from now).

This looks good:

Subject: Iraq War

Topic: War or not?


I would rename that to, "The War in Iraq" rather than the, "Iraq War" unless you're choosing the time period that Saddam was still in power?

Iraq isn't at war with anybody


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Dilmeet
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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I think I'd break it up into Pre / Post Saddam and choose one; there's certainly lots of juicy ways to slice each.

I'd stay away from anything too ambagious as it could stray from discussion and especially if you're ending with a persuasive speech.

There's LOTS of opinion and logic from all angles (MisterOpus1 is right, this topic is huge) so pick one you feel comfortable with and go with that.


very true, I really want to be clear when I persuade my side. Although, I might have to sound a little biased when I give the pro/con speech.

Yes it will be "The War in Iraq"

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Dilmeet
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Okay, we'll go with those two topics. Couple more questions - which one of these speeches do you have to give on Tuesday? And if you're speaking in terms of controversy, which "side" of the controversy will you be proposing?


quote:
have to give the historical one on Tuesday. I can't tell any members of the class which side I'am on until the 3rd speech (persuasive, which is 2 weeks from now).

This looks good:

Subject: The War in Iraq

Topic: War or not?


also... In the historical speech, I have to bring the people UP to the pros and cons

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MisterOpus1
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quote:
Originally posted by Dilmeet
I have to give the historical one on Tuesday. I can't tell any members of the class which side I'am on until the 3rd speech (persuasive, which is 2 weeks from now).

This looks good:

Subject: Iraq War

Topic: War or not?



Okay, again even this subtopic you've chosen can explode into a monster summary of events, but try to keep it simple and quick, especially in a 5 minute crunch.

I hate to throw two giant volumes of work at you, but these two reports are probably the best place to start:

1. The 9/11 Commission Report:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/

-which can be used as either a book, website, OR "whatever" citation (I'd probably go with the book citation considering that's probably the hardest to get through).

2. The Duelfer Report on Iraq WMD:
http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/duelfer.html

These two reports give the most comprehensive review of Iraqs WMD stockpiles, proliferation (or lackthereof), and overall threat as well as how we handled (and mishandled) those threats in the 1990's and past our invasion. The importance is this was our primary rationale for invasion by this Administration, the secondary rationale being al Qaeda connections (which both reports addresses i.e. "no operational ties").

Another site of interest is Wikipedia, which you MUST at all costs examine with a grain of salt and verify all sources yourself since it's not a definitive (and often purely opinionated) source. Quick google came up with this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

Here's another:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...olution_of_2002

Sorry so brief. Gotta run for the night. I'd also consider using the "search" function in these forums for the topic as well. Again my apologies for this. Sounds like you're on a pretty tight deadline. Best of luck.


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Dilmeet
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Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Okay, again even this subtopic you've chosen can explode into a monster summary of events, but try to keep it simple and quick, especially in a 5 minute crunch.

I hate to throw two giant volumes of work at you, but these two reports are probably the best place to start:

1. The 9/11 Commission Report:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/

-which can be used as either a book, website, OR "whatever" citation (I'd probably go with the book citation considering that's probably the hardest to get through).

2. The Duelfer Report on Iraq WMD:
http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/duelfer.html

These two reports give the most comprehensive review of Iraqs WMD stockpiles, proliferation (or lackthereof), and overall threat as well as how we handled (and mishandled) those threats in the 1990's and past our invasion. The importance is this was our primary rationale for invasion by this Administration, the secondary rationale being al Qaeda connections (which both reports addresses i.e. "no operational ties").

Another site of interest is Wikipedia, which you MUST at all costs examine with a grain of salt and verify all sources yourself since it's not a definitive (and often purely opinionated) source. Quick google came up with this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

Here's another:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.ph...olution_of_2002

Sorry so brief. Gotta run for the night. I'd also consider using the "search" function in these forums for the topic as well. Again my apologies for this. Sounds like you're on a pretty tight deadline. Best of luck.


thanks! although wiki is a problem for my teacher, but those other sites look great, esp them not being .com's or .net's

im also going to be using google scholar as well as lexis nexis

thanks again!

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Q5echo
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Location: Dallas

start with a little recent history.

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