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Originally posted by CiTrus Thinka problem now is phrasing, i keep having empty beats of abt 16 beats which is kinda pissing me off.

i dont really get what u mean there

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Last edited by sleepydragon on Jun-21-2007 at 20:08

i didn't get to hear ur mix.. coz my internet is toooo damnnnnn slowwww .. but from what u said.. i think the problem is with your cue finding .. simply put .. which point of the track are u bring it in .. try listening more to your records and get to know them better.. i m not sure if that is the solution to your problem .. =)

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I didn't have a chance to listen yet. However, it took me a while to figure out phrasing. I'm a newbie myself so take following advice with a grain of salt.

I found that the easiest way to phrase is to hit "play" on the cued deck exactly on the first beat after a breakdown on a track that's currently playing. If you did this and beat-matched correctly, the phrases will line up perfectly in most cases (breakdowns and cymbal hits will occur at the same time on both tracks). Once the tracks are phrase matched, you need adjust your gains and EQs to make sure that both tracks are playing at about the same volume (obviously do this in the headphones). This is very important. If you cut the main track, and cued track is playing at a lower volume - it will most likely sound very awkward.

I hope all of this made sense

if you standardize your technique

you're going to end up with a standard mix

and you'll only be a standard dj

learn how to count beats.16, 32, 64, and so forth.
and know your tracks well, so when that nasty
8 beat dropout hits you are ready for it and have already
added that adjustment to the cue track

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Originally posted by Andryuha If you did this and beat-matched correctly, the phrases will line up perfectly in most cases

unless of course the two tracks have totally diff time signatures :P - but that should have already been decided before hand

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Originally posted by nefardec if you standardize your technique you're going to end up with a standard mix and you'll only be a standard dj

+1

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I just listned.

If you understand correctly, you mean that in the transition between 2 tracks you have about 16 beats of just simple beat, with no melody or anything.

I am having the same problem.

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Originally posted by Spoonz unless of course the two tracks have totally diff time signatures :P - but that should have already been decided before hand

I know what you mean, but that method seems to work with most of the tracks I played.

On a side note, I hate tunes where beat cuts out with no prior indicators. Take for example Gabriel & Dresden - Eleven. For the last two minutes or so, it's just some repetitive sound effect.

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Originally posted by Andryuha I know what you mean, but that method seems to work with most of the tracks I played.

yea, the majority of tracks seem to be 4/4

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and to Cro... it's just knowing when to drop the next track on, knowing how long the next track takes to get to parts of the build up and knowing when the previous track starts to build down.

most of the tracks i play have two breakdowns, at the end of the second breakdown i will often drop the new track on the first beat(if that makes sense) - giving roughly 1.5 mins to mix it up

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Originally posted by Spoonz yea, the majority of tracks seem to be 4/4 ---- and to Cro... it's just knowing when to drop the next track on, knowing how long the next track takes to get to parts of the build up and knowing when the previous track starts to build down. most of the tracks i play have two breakdowns, at the end of the second breakdown i will often drop the new track on the first beat(if that makes sense) - giving roughly 1.5 mins to mix it up

Makes sense, thats what i have started doing.

You know I relly like when people to like 3-4 minute or even longer transitions...i wanna get to that point eventually.

Cuz most of the time once i mix in the track which takes about 1 minute...then i just stand there for like 3-4 minutes letting the track play. When I look at videos of other people they are always pushing turning knobs on their mixer, and i always think WTF are they doing...any advice?