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damnuok
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Sidechain / slow-attack bass

what's the diff? they sound almost the same or i suck?

Old Post Sep-15-2007 21:09  Spain
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soundrush
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the difference is the way they are created. indeed they can have the same effect. tough sidechaining is more precise because it has an inverted envelope of your bassdrum or any other instrument you use as carrier signal.

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Sanguis Mortuum
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Re: Sidechain / slow-attack bass

quote:
Originally posted by damnuok
what's the diff? they sound almost the same or i suck?


Sidechaining not only makes the bass have a slow attack (As the kick subsides), but also a quick decay (When the kick hits), creating a 'pumping' effect...

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Eldritch
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Sidechained adds more rythmic drive to a track than just using a slow attack.

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Sidechaining not only makes the bass have a slow attack (As the kick subsides), but also a quick decay (When the kick hits), creating a 'pumping' effect...


Ummm.. It completely depends how you use it.


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uniquu
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But is the sidechaining same as using volume automation?
I mean that the volume is low when the kick hits and then it goes higher after the kick...?

Old Post Sep-16-2007 08:33  Finland
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soundrush
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quote:
Originally posted by uniquu
But is the sidechaining same as using volume automation?
I mean that the volume is low when the kick hits and then it goes higher after the kick...?


yes and no, sidechaining is a kind of volume automation.

your carrier signal (bassdrum in most cases) controls the peak of the signal you route it to (volume of bassline or pad in most cases). so the volume of your bassline is an inverted image of the bassdrums volume.

actualy you can use/route sidechain to any parameter like for example cuttof or reverb or whatever.

this sidechaining seems to be an enigma check here or here its pretty simple

Last edited by soundrush on Sep-16-2007 at 09:09

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Sanguis Mortuum
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Originally posted by Pompous SmugFag
Ummm.. It completely depends how you use it.


Well, obviously, but from the original posters comparison to slow-attack bass I presumed he was referring to the usual trick of sidechaining the bass to the kick...

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mysticalninja
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Sidechain / slow-attack bass

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Sidechaining not only makes the bass have a slow attack (As the kick subsides), but also a quick decay (When the kick hits), creating a 'pumping' effect...


quote:
Originally posted by Sanguis Mortuum
Well, obviously, but from the original posters comparison to slow-attack bass I presumed he was referring to the usual trick of sidechaining the bass to the kick...


depends on the attack and release of the sidechain.


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Sanguis Mortuum
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depends on the attack and release of the sidechain.


Again, obviously, but most compressors are usually set up with a shorter attack than the release. Even a 'long' attack on a compressor is usually shorter in ms than a 'short' release is...

And of course, the original poster is comparing it to a 'slow-attack bass' so he is obviously talking about the sidechain 'pumping' effect...

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