ok folks get ready for A LONG read! but these are my feeling so what are you gonna do...btw i broke it up so its easier to read...

it originally started in this thread:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...872#post8420872

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Originally posted by AddictedTo1982 Well FUR is being relentless on stopping to bring trance DJ's and thats a good thing

agreed.i can remember a thread on the glow boards about trying to bring in the "lesser known dj's"


(after some searching the glow boards i found it,here it is)

http://www.groovanauts.com/board/sh...=richard+durand

and at least 5 of the dj's named in that thread have been at fur in the last 3 months.now granted it hasnt been that packed there and thats glows reasoning for not bringing in these dj's,however,the (house)talent they have been bringing in has not generated a lot of buzz and tickets either.

and speaking of buzz,now that THAT parties back in town im sure it will help to influence people to come out to furs trance parties not to mention put a dent in glows house parties as buzz is the originater of house events in this area.securing deadmau5 is a huuge deal as he is hot right now.

i think one of furs problems right now is lack of promotion.i dont see any of the above names in this thread on thier website and flier distibution and advance ticket promotion has been weak at best.to quote the glowcrews quote:

"Ultimately, nightclubs are in business to make money".

having said that you have get the word out to the OLD AND CURRENT glow patrons what dj's are coming to your club.the dj's that they have brought in the last 3 months would have sold better at glow simply based on glows name status in the club scene here alone.

and name status at fur is ultimately there biggest problem: FUR HAS TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE NOT THE OLD FUR THAT RAN GLOW WITH AN IRON FIST DURING GLOWS TENURE AT THAT VENUE!

having buzzlife at the venue is a giant step towards this, as anyone whos been to a buzz event when nations was around knows they were famous for their loose restrictions on clothing, glowsticks and had a great "come as you are"policy. so combining that with word of mouth about having a more relaxed vibe will really bring people who might be dusgruntled with fur because of past events back into the club.if i was fur I would go as far as printing it on their fliers and website that they are more easy going now.

i know this seems like a giant promotion for fur or something but trust me its just what i think should be done(i definetly had my problems at fur and stopped going more and more after they started confiscating local dj's cd's at the door).however i do think fur has the upper hand in 2008 providing they continue to bring in the talent that they have and it seems like they are.

on glows end they have the club name status already so all they have to do is keep more of an open mind towards the dj's they bring in,avoid becoming stale,and look at the younger up and coming djs more as these djs eventually become the future stars of this industry.in the end i will support both clubs.but the bottom line is ill give my money to the club that brings in the best lineup.

i encourage both fur and glow promoters and staff to comment in this thread including the patrons of both venues.

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Last edited by bigjimslade002 on Jan-01-2008 at 08:28

My thought is that there's more to the scene than Fur and Ibiza
smaller parties is where it's at
Pulse is growing every month
We are slowly building a techno scene
More techno in '08
viva la revolution!

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Originally posted by beema Pulse is growing every month We are slowly building a techno scene More techno in '08 viva la revolution!

where is pulse?

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Originally posted by dcctnycprincess where is pulse?

BeBar
Third Saturday of each month

This month I'm opening, and headlining is my friend who has a release out soon on Drumcode
But it looks like you'll be seeing John O'Bir instead...



not to be confused with "Pulse Zero" which is a re-inception of a house music party and held at 1223 twice a month.

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Originally posted by beema My thought is that there's more to the scene than Fur and Ibiza smaller parties is where it's at Pulse is growing every month We are slowly building a techno scene More techno in '08 viva la revolution!

i agree and doing the things your doing also helps the scene a lot!ill definetly show up at one of your gigs!

but im curios to see what people think of fur now that glow is not there and what they think of glow now that its over at ibiza.im actually not blown away with the layout of the new glow but that might change the more i go there.

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Originally posted by beema This month I'm opening, and headlining is my friend who has a release out soon on Drumcode

Good lord, that's a big deal... That's one of my favorite techno labels, as it is with a lot of people, give him a congrats!

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Originally posted by bigjimslade002 i agree and doing the things your doing also helps the scene a lot!ill definetly show up at one of your gigs! but im curios to see what people think of fur now that glow is not there and what they think of glow now that its over at ibiza.im actually not blown away with the layout of the new glow but that might change the more i go there.

I've still not been to Ibiza, so I can't offer any real comments on it.

As for FUR...well for me, buzz at FUR is just plain weird still. It just doesn't feel right. Perhaps in time if they are able to make it more like the buzz of yore and a good regular crowd builds up. For now it still just feels like FUR to me. The main room is never packed, and there is still hip hop in the front and as such, the rowdy crowd that comes along with it. Buzz is bringing in some good acts, but they really need to re-focus on how they are promoting or something, because they simply aren't drawing the crowd they should be.

I haven't been to the trance nights at FUR on saturdays, so I don't know if the same rings true for them. I probably wont ever go because to put it simply, I just don't like trance anymore.

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This is an interesting discussion. Some good points have been touched on.
I'd like to think that it is not so much Glow versus Global but more of the different direction each party decided on. Glow is doing more the house/electro sound and Global @ Fur is concentrating mainly on Progressive/Trance and the occasional house night. Each party has a different idea of where the music scene is headed. Luckily for both parties there are enough people with different taste. We know there were some growing pains with promotions earlier on and some promoters and were changed. The promotions vehicle is now turning its wheels and the word is getting out There are some tweaks but these kinks are being worked out.
The DC crowd in general has so much to choose from between both clubs not to mention many other lounges and such. However, since this is tranceaddict for Trance there is basically one choice in DC and that is FUR This is why we decided to go the progressive and trance route. No other club was doing it, and we are confident that the demand is there.
The goal is to be consistent in quality every week, whether it be a local or big name headliner. We plan to show DC that good quality music can be Trance. The last two shows Cosmic Gate and Matt Darey/Jan Johnston were packed!!! So this is a good sign

Last edited by phineasncole on Jan-03-2008 at 09:22

I have been to both clubs and all I can say is that Glow @ Ibiza has the upper hand since its way bigger and more room to walk around and its easy to get around. Also the sound system is so much better at Ibiza.


What hurts FUR is that nothing changed and what its seems to be is that Glow has much more room. I went to Ibiza for Dirty South and I was shocked how many people where in the main room. What even better the women ratio was much higher. OH THE BIGGEST THING IS THE LAZERS @ IBIZA WERE F*CKIN INCREDIBLE.


I have yet to checkout a Buzzlife nite and I will do so since Roger Sanchez & Ladiback Luke will be there later on this month. Fur needs so rebuild and destroy cause I am sick of that stupid vip layout.

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Originally posted by AddictedTo1982 I have been to both clubs and all I can say is that Glow @ Ibiza has the upper hand since its way bigger and more room to walk around and its easy to get around. Also the sound system is so much better at Ibiza. What hurts FUR is that nothing changed and what its seems to be is that Glow has much more room. I went to Ibiza for Dirty South and I was shocked how many people where in the main room. What even better the women ratio was much higher. OH THE BIGGEST THING IS THE LAZERS @ IBIZA WERE F*CKIN INCREDIBLE. I have yet to checkout a Buzzlife nite and I will do so since Roger Sanchez & Ladiback Luke will be there later on this month. Fur needs so rebuild and destroy cause I am sick of that stupid vip layout.

A bit harsh on Fur Not sure if I agree with your perspective on the Fur sound system It is one of the best in the city!! The lighting system is perfect!!
Well since Fur brought two of your favorite DJ's on your profile Blank & Jones, & Andy Moor maybe once we bring Marco V you will give Fur some better feedback

Before Glow made the move I had so many bad times because it always overcrowd and the worst of the worst people. FUR's much better now since its less people so it keeps the night more intimate. Sound system is great until they turn it up load and I am not the only who's experienced this to.


I remember Buzzlife saying they were gonna make improvements on the layout wonder what happen with that

Glow and Buzz are institutions in DC. They have their own followings. The concern is with Global. There's a reason Glow has diversified with the genres.

Although, I love trance and will show up for most of Global events, I'm doubful that an all trance party will attract consistent flow of clubbers.

That aside, Global needs to promote their asses off. I meet friends here and there and tell them about the DJs Global is bringing in and most of the time they have no idea.

Fur is an awesome club. With its sound system fixed, it may even be better club than Ibiza. But it lacks the identity as a club. Buzz only brings in its own crowd. Global hasn't established itself yet. People have no idea what to expect. I'm sure it will come to itself with time, but for how long and how committed is Michael Romeo?