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ibizzzaaa
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Is anyone bothered by this?

I haven't really searched the forums to see if this was discussed before, but does anyone feel bothered by the fact that in EDM (pretty much regardless of genre) most records are meant to be played occasionally and then tossed aside for good after two or three months and the big hits are under no circumstances okay to be played after seven or eight months have passed since the release. It's just funny to me how say some Trentemoller records, that so many dj's and listeners creamed over three or so years ago, are now appearing on sale in Discogs in double-digit amounts. Right now, there are 18 copies of Nam Nam EP, which came out only in 2006, up for grabs.

Everything is just so focused on what is trendy and hyped up at the moment. And even the producers who have the skill and talent evolve their sound in direct relation to what the well-respected dj's are pushing forward at the moment. It is difficult to think of any names have had one signature sound and developed and tweaked it in no relation and regard of what everyone else is into at the moment. And the majority of producers consider this when they are in the studio: why commit all of youself into these tracks when, no matter how well the reception will be, this material will to be forgotten in a few years. Digital Witchcraft, for example, haven't released anything in almost three years, and those who still do remember them are probably like "haha, sum great stuff back in the day, wonder what happened to them." In other spheres of music, even electronic ones like experimental and IDM, it is absolutely normal to put out an album or even EP and then disappear for two or three years, then come back and release 5 superb tracks and then disappear again.

Perhaps EDM would consist of more memorable and individual producers if it was less DJ's and more live PA's. Because making a record that will be played by DJ's, artist feels abligated to work within a very limiting framework so that all the tracks will easily to flow with whatever other records that are popular are, open and close with at least 30 seconds of flat 4x4 beat, and so on.

There will always be a place in my heart for EDM, as it serves its own unque purpose and elements that other genres are short on, but the way this system works is just fucking ridiculous.

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RapidFire
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I must agree. but looking back on it djs have always done this. the difference being that the musical trends of the past were much better (imo)

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MrJiveBoJingles
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I must agree. but looking back on it djs have always done this.

Pretty much.

It's just that now it's a thousand times easier to access livesets and tracklists, so people are realizing it more.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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I also think that people are generally starting to treat music as more disposable simply because it's so easy and quick to find and buy now.

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ibizzzaaa
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It's just that now it's a thousand times easier to access livesets and tracklists, so people are realizing it more.


Yeah, that does make sense.

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kadomony
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blame the internet.

a big track gets worn out within a few weeks when its readily available to anyone who wants it.


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IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
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With the easy access of resources out there now days, it's the users own stupidity to use only recent tracks.

Fuck genres (to an extent), and fuck time periods.

This is exactly why I like to sort my music by years, really is nice to look back at some dated tracks and see that they could do just as good (or maybe better) today.


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It does bother me, although it's nothing new. Unless a record was a huge hit it becomes very hard to find a copy of it after 10 years or so.


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ibizzzaaa
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Originally posted by kadomony
a big track gets worn out within a few weeks when its readily available to anyone who wants it.

And there is that other problem - overall EDM is just not interesting, or at least to me. I usually get tired of even well done tracks after five listens. I like the type of music where you discover and notice something new with each listen. Even with stuff that gets spins from Digweed, Hernan, and other well-respected dj's; it's neither forward thinking, nor fun to me. It must partially goes back to the limiting framework that producers have to construct their tracks within, that I have already talked about.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by ibizzzaaa
I usually get tired of even well done tracks after five listens.

That's probably because the vast majority of EDM isn't very complex, so there's not really much to "discover" by listening to it again and again.

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It kind of sounds like you're just getting tired of dance music in general.

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quote:
Originally posted by ibizzzaaa
I like the type of music where you discover and notice something new with each listen.

Prog rock/Post rock is your friend


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Originally posted by siastyle
Okay iv hurd the Album and lemmi tell you guyz.... Tiesto is gono make it back to the top again with these hits. The thing about it is that hes trying 2 bring a new style tho just like he did with Just be and it worked. they songs areunt TOO HIGHT up. but the vocals acaully are the best thing in 2007. The Track Carpe Noctum is like traffic but it hink he could of prefected the shit ouf it. but generalllyy its an amazing album...oh and Ten Seconds Before Sunrise is like Forever today TIMES 12

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