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Originally posted by Search&Rescue what are some of the ways you mix into or out of beatless tracks? do you still 'beatmatch' or do you just fade in/out? Thanks in advance.

Beatmatching in a beatless track?

That's right up there with the waterproof teabag.

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Are you talking about ambient tracks, or just ones with no beat in the intro which kick in later?

If it's the latter, it depends how I'd want to do it but generally I'd just skip through to where the beat kicks in and start it from there. One thing you can do is once you've cued it up normally from the start of the beat, you can whack the deck into reverse and play back say 8 bars from the first beat (i.e. going backwards through the beatless intro) then start it from there - then you know your beat will kick in 8 bars later, with any luck being bang in time.

If you are talking about entirely ambient tracks, it would have to totally depend on the tracks and how you want your mix to come across... generally fading in and out will work fine because they tend to have long pad sections at the start and end.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Beatmatching in a beatless track? That's right up there with the waterproof teabag.

No tracks are truely beatless(I'm sure there are some extreme examples... but I've never heard anything I can't tap along too[this includes any ambient I've heard btw] btw). I'd still want to keep in bar and in phrase.

It'll still sound better if you beatmatch in bar and in phrase even if the unskilled people can't tap along with it at will.

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I've a lil' mix I'm putting together where I basically fade into a Chicane track...
I'd say that what you do really depends on what environment you're playing in...If you're just making a bedroom mix, fade ins and outs are acceptable, but in a performance environment, beatmatch it.

...imho of course

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use the metronome (in your head). it gets better with time. if you have a djm800 you can tap the effects tap button with the beat of the song that is about to become beatless and keep an eye on the blinking button while doing the metronome in your head. all you have to do is drop the next track on beat with the metronome in your head... lol

I was talking about ambient tracks. for example, Chymera - Umbrella (Beatless Mix)

and I didn't mean 'beatmatching' literally but would you still match them in phrase or not.

so using the fading in/out technique, I guess the transitions will have to be shorter than usual...15-30 seconds?

nem i believe has a couple ambient or chill mixes, try PMing him

as far as i understand it's just a matter of fading them properly

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Can someone post a youtube of these so called "beatless" tracks?

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Pretty sure they're referring to ambient tracks...stuff like Chain Reaction - heavy synth washes that are laid out in 4/4 time, sans percussion.

beat =/= kick

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Originally posted by Darkarbiter Can someone post a youtube of these so called "beatless" tracks?

Just to be Devil's Advocate....

http://www.youtube.com/v/cqP0WNpojFM&hl

http://www.youtube.com/v/dQHjGGQgVcA&hl

http://www.youtube.com/v/k-rqOJDo0-8&hl

http://www.youtube.com/v/80fE63zIgyg&hl