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Originally posted by Kid_presentable from 'inthemix' Tiesto revealed an unexpectedly sensitive side behind his usual trance-by-numbers automaton like persona this week, revealing that he occasionally feels offended by hyper-critical postings on forums. “In the past I noticed comments from people who were also in the music scene, like other DJs or producers. And when you make one or two small mixing mistakes a night, they write on the forums ‘my whole night was ruined because of that’. Come on – one or two little mistakes during the whole night, big deal! Stuff like that can happen!” the trance star complained. “Well, that is how I personally think about it,” he continued. “We’re all human and we all make mistakes. I see everybody going nuts and that’s the most important thing for me,” he told Scandinavian portal Trance.Nu. Thick-skinned techno type Dave Clarke empathised, telling Skrufff, “I try to deal with criticism in the same way as when I get over-praised, but yes, I’m human and yes, it can hurt. Sometimes I read forums, and yes, of course, I have been criticised, but most of the time the people that do it have false names and the comments are often by people that profess to know me when they have maybe at best had two words with me at the end of a set,” he said. “Some of the bullshit is legendary, like I had rich parents who paid for everything when I started (was that before or after I was homeless?), insults aimed at my family, crap about my rider that simply isn’t true. There are some vicious PR companies out there as well,” Dave added. US progressive house star Chris Fortier said he rarely visits forums nowadays ‘unless someone sends me a specific link’ after realising he was being ‘distracted from his real work’ by their commentary. “I think overall forums are good for dance music as they provide more people with more knowledge and information, and that is a good thing; my only problem is how some of the speech can so hateful,” Chris told Skrufff. “Critical and negative viewpoints are fine, but there really is no need for anything to be vile and hateful and just plain evil,” he said. “I am sure there have been some negative or critical things about me or my music, and that is fine. My only hope in those cases is to make sure the facts of the circumstances are right,” Chris continued.

Agreed. Simple, but good article.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Agreed. Simple, but good article.

True, in Holland there is a saying that explains this behaviour: 'De beste stuurlui staan aan wal', which means sort of that people standing on the sideline, now how to play football better that the players.

Or something in that direction.

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what does fotball has to do with anything?

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Originally posted by palm what does fotball has to do with anything?

Blasphemer!

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Originally posted by palm what does fotball has to do with anything?

Don't you guys mean soccer?



JUST KIDDING!!!



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Originally posted by Kid_presentable from 'inthemix' Tiesto revealed an unexpectedly sensitive side behind his usual trance-by-numbers automaton like persona this week, revealing that he occasionally feels offended by hyper-critical postings on forums. “In the past I noticed comments from people who were also in the music scene, like other DJs or producers. And when you make one or two small mixing mistakes a night, they write on the forums ‘my whole night was ruined because of that’. Come on – one or two little mistakes during the whole night, big deal! Stuff like that can happen!” the trance star complained. “Well, that is how I personally think about it,” he continued. “We’re all human and we all make mistakes. I see everybody going nuts and that’s the most important thing for me,” he told Scandinavian portal Trance.Nu. Thick-skinned techno type Dave Clarke empathised, telling Skrufff, “I try to deal with criticism in the same way as when I get over-praised, but yes, I’m human and yes, it can hurt. Sometimes I read forums, and yes, of course, I have been criticised, but most of the time the people that do it have false names and the comments are often by people that profess to know me when they have maybe at best had two words with me at the end of a set,” he said. “Some of the bullshit is legendary, like I had rich parents who paid for everything when I started (was that before or after I was homeless?), insults aimed at my family, crap about my rider that simply isn’t true. There are some vicious PR companies out there as well,” Dave added. US progressive house star Chris Fortier said he rarely visits forums nowadays ‘unless someone sends me a specific link’ after realising he was being ‘distracted from his real work’ by their commentary. “I think overall forums are good for dance music as they provide more people with more knowledge and information, and that is a good thing; my only problem is how some of the speech can so hateful,” Chris told Skrufff. “Critical and negative viewpoints are fine, but there really is no need for anything to be vile and hateful and just plain evil,” he said. “I am sure there have been some negative or critical things about me or my music, and that is fine. My only hope in those cases is to make sure the facts of the circumstances are right,” Chris continued.

hes doing a gig in dublin soon and hes charging 250euro a ticket i say fuck him.... he ruined trance then he sold out to get a grammy...... he just the pdiddy of the dj world... he deserves everything he gets cau elements of life was PAIN... what kind of pain well imagine putting a anail gun up to ure eye and pulling the trigger .....yeah you feeling the pain... SELLOUT

You know the promoter decides on entry fees right? Not a DJ?

Plus his fees are driven by simple supply and demand. Many people want him, then he's expensive. That's not his fault, blame capitalism instead or find a job which earns a better salary :P

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Originally posted by maximlee .... he ruined trance then he sold out to get a grammy...... he just the pdiddy of the dj world... he deserves everything he gets cau elements of life was PAIN... what kind of pain well imagine putting a anail gun up to ure eye and pulling the trigger .....yeah you feeling the pain... SELLOUT

Trance is ruined? And, all because of one guy? Thanks for enlightening me - I thought it just evolved, ya know, kind of like how all music evolves.


Oh yeah, and how dare that bastard Tiesto get popular and win a Grammy. He should be a starving bedroom producer like the rest of us. Set your goals low, that's my motto.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Trance is ruined? And, all because of one guy? Thanks for enlightening me - I thought it just evolved, ya know, kind of like how all music evolves. Oh yeah, and how dare that bastard Tiesto get popular and win a Grammy. He should be a starving bedroom producer like the rest of us. Set your goals low, that's my motto.

Please. In the last 6 or so years he's made nothing but dross for 14 year olds who are just finding out what electronic music is. And yes promoters set the fees but these days DJ's like him (see I can't even say his name) have a cut of the ticket price and it is their fees that push the ticket prices up.

The article is good but the point about him is obvious - if you sell out that hard when you were once (at least to some degree) credible, you know you are going to get ridiculed. It's not you don't expect it when take that path. The fact he is pretending to give a shit is worse in my opinion - he's made a lot of money, won a lot of awards and he did it by selling out. He should just be happy with what he chose and deal with the flak.

yeah. except i dont get paid £30k a gig for my mistakes.

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