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movingincircles
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Registered: Jan 2003
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hardware reverbs vs. software reverbs

so I've been using ableton's builtin software reverb plugin, would a hardware reverb processor achieve better results?

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pwnage1
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Probably. But is it worth the money? My guess is probably not.


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Knowland
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Reverbs were digital to begin with. I would say any good software will give you excellent results.

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I've used both and i'm yet to find software that comes near Lexicons with Lexichips


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echosystm
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software reverbs are better, imo.

1. unless it is a vst/dsp combo, hardware is too much of a pain in the ass
2. most hardware reverbs are digital anyway (software on a box)
3. there are more people making soft reverbs than hardware
4. you have much better convolution-based options in software

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dannib
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You definately cannot beat top of the range lexicon or bricasti reverbs with software at the moment.

The best algorithmic software reverbs BY FAR imo are Powercore VSS3 and the UAD plate reverb. These easily beat many hardware reverbs up to the price of $1000 imo. Very nice sound.

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mzvirbulis
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Ballarat, Victoria

The closest to Analog reverb is to re-record the sound played in a room, and trust me it actually is not a bad idea for the results of real reverb of a room.
reverb can only be created with algorithyms, so external hardware or software is out of the question. Although plate and reverb can be done analog i think.

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derail
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Registered: Feb 2007
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It totally depends on what sort of reverb you're looking for, what your personal preference is.

I'm currently using a Lexicon PCM91, it sounds very different to the software reverbs I have. The best way I can describe it is it's musical, rather than trying to recreate acoustic spaces precisely. It becomes part of the sound.

Lexicon released a new model a little while ago (though I think it's around $4,500). It may be worth trying one out if you have a music store in your area which has them. It may be far more than you'd like to spend, but it may sound noticably different from other reverbs you've tried. Whether that's good or bad is up to you personally.

But every reverb, hardware or software, will have it's own sonic character. The only way to know which one you prefer is to try a few out.

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flutlicht junky
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quote:
Originally posted by Knowland
Reverbs were digital to begin with. I would say any good software will give you excellent results.


Reverbs are not digital!!

You can create your own with a mic and a speaker playing into any space and recording the results. Although this may sound more realistic it's prob not worth the effort unless it's part of the sound you are after.


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kitphillips
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Theres some funny stuff in here "reverbs were digital to begin with" and
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reverb can only be created with algorithyms, so external hardware or software is out of the question. Although plate and reverb can be done analog i think.

This is possibly one of the funniest sentences I've ever come across on here. I hope your joking? Because we all know that there is such a thing as spring and plate reverbs, or even *gasp* a natural reverb
And we also all know that you CAN put "algorithyms" in hardware?


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kitphillips
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Reverbs are not digital!!

You can create your own with a mic and a speaker playing into any space and recording the results. Although this may sound more realistic it's prob not worth the effort unless it's part of the sound you are after.


And of course the degradation may not give you the clean verb sound you were looking for...


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mzvirbulis
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Ballarat, Victoria

meh i wrote that late at night man give me a break!

might not make sense to you but it does to me.

when refering to the algorithyms, i was saying that it's the only means with hardware(outboard fx unit)software to generate complex artificial reverb.

when saying hardware and software is out of the question, i meant its irrelevent to an extent because They are all dsp based technology.

And when refering to plate and spring reverb, i was meaning it was a means of simulating reverb in an electromechanical way. Hence analog(electrical sinals) can be used to make it.

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