I was browsing through the Production Studio today and found these two posts:

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox I actually just went through all my new work from about 5 years ago when I first started. It really is crazy to go back and see how far you've came and how shitty your first attempts at music were and wtf you were thinking.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I think I had much more daring/creative ideas back then even if the production itself is quite terrible.

In this thread: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=496388

I have to say that I feel like this occasionally. Sometimes I browse through old Reason files and find stuff that I don't even remember making. The production is really simple compared to what I can do now, but a lot of the times the ideas are really interesting or creative. It seems like now that I've been producing for years, I find myself falling into pre-programmed routines when I'm writing a track rather than just exploring sounds and ideas like I did in my newbie days.

Anyone feel this way sometimes?

I completely agree that and I wish there was a way out of this. Now I just feel that i am looping the same ideas over and over again.

I used a lot of tracker during my newbie years and I think the tracker type user interface might promote creativity. You just can bang keyboard with amazing speed and come up with new creative riffs and patterns.

That is probably because it was more fun in the beginning, and having fun while making music can really reflect the sound, and give it personality.

And by having fun i mean, just making music without thinking too much about it.
I atleast find myself focusing too much about everything sounding as correct as possible.

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Originally posted by Subtle And by having fun i mean, just making music without thinking too much about it.

This might be a big part of it. As you make more music and listen to more music over the years, you can get more self-conscious about it: "Does this sound 'right?' Does this sound too much like what I already did?" But in the beginning it's all just exploration really, not trying to live up to some "standard," unless you're one of those people who starts out dead-set on sounding like Tiesto or whatever.

it all comes down to what you think is the most important.
technicality or creativity?
for me creativity comes to the forefront if things then worry about the rest later on

my history isnt that long so im not that much better than i was, nor have i lost my creativity yet, but some of my oldest tracks are indeed creative but suckable sounding. one of them i even have trouble playing back due CPU stuff. dont know how i did it then but i had a better soundcard so it might be something with that.

I think part of the issue is that we are both engineers and artists - I feel we get too bogged down with the technology and the process of producing, rather than just being creative and letting your art produce itself.

Don't forget, being technical and being artistic require two very different approaches but we try to do both at once.

I cant belive that i didnt touch production until december last year and in 10 months ive got this far.

Listening back , im think how raw and techno'y they sounded.

and ive gone from a laptop and added another screen, a roland sh201 which for its price is a great little synth and mastered the use of some of my vsti's.

and i nearly lost the lot over a five finger disco movie.

but i love producing and i wish i could stay home all day and create sounds and stuff.

i hope the future bring more of the same for me.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I think part of the issue is that we are both engineers and artists - I feel we get too bogged down with the technology and the process of producing, rather than just being creative and letting your art produce itself. Don't forget, being technical and being artistic require two very different approaches but we try to do both at once.

partly the beauty of it imo. technology and creativity is a dangerous combination and if we use it on music and not something else then the world should be happy and safe for now.

I'd personally see myself as much more creative now. Before I found I'd pigeon holed myself into a genre and well.. once I realized I could pull it off I found it terribly boring. Lately I've been having a lot more IDM-esque influences and have been putting myself on a steeper learning curve than I had in the beginning. To me, the more I understand my tools, the more I develop both melody and sound-wise.

vicious circle when you havent a clue just making catchy songs from the heart relying on pure faith all you want is for them to sound pro. When you learn the mastering all you do if make them sound pro and possibly neglect to creative part.

One way i get round this is disconnect your synth from pc/mac stick in some batteries go drive to a field/park/cliffe edge/lake/ insert inspiration place here and play melodies over and over and design patches in headphones etc. I recently made a great track like this.

Helps if u got a mini synth though like a microkorg carrying a roland fantom to a park might be a bit crap.

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That is probably because it was more fun in the beginning, and having fun while making music can really reflect the sound, and give it personality.

I feel I'm much more creative now, and I enjoy producing more than ever. Lucky me, I suppose.