Recently I've been thinking on this particular matter, which I'd like to hear your opinions on. The reason for those thoughts to appear in my mind has been the awfully many people always raving on about trance being dead and so on.

Recently, some people I know have changed to listening to house and minimal techno rather than trance. Perhaps this is the place to make clear that I'm not in either the house/techno or the pure trance category. I love trance and progressive trance. But house (especially progressive and tech) and minimal and funky techno can be great as well. I seldom use only one of these genres in a DJ mix as well, as I like exciting, non-generic music and mixing Back to the question. When I ask why those friends of mine stopped listening to trance (all sorts, not only uplifting) and turned to house and minimal techno instead, the answer often is "the trance scene has turned to something I don't like anymore and so on". Now what I think is: Well, I realize the trance scene has changed. But it doesn't help turning to genres that are just as (maybe even more) predictable as trance. Maybe it's not the content of the music that has evolved into something bad, perhaps those people just search for something else in music?

Things can't be revolutionary or evolving all the time, they also weren't back in "the good old days of trance".

I don't know how minimal can be more predictable than trance.

I didn't really mean predictable then. Replace it with "simple and hereby "boring", as some people say trance is or has become".

Last edited by THE_MARSBAR on Jan-06-2009 at 13:13

minimal would make mozart turn over in his grave

I'm NOT looking for a flame war here (I like minimal as well as I already stated once). Please be serious, people.

the big trance djs ie Tiesto, have been largely commercialized, dettering people who want to listen to and be apart of an underground movement.

and I dont hate all minimal, some of its badass, but it can get redundant as balls, and really shitty

the big trance djs ie Tiesto, have been largely commercialized, dettering people who want to listen to and be apart of an underground movement.

and I dont hate all minimal, some of its badass, but it can get redundant as balls, and really shitty

How long have you been listening to trance? 1-2? 3 years at most?

Well, if you had followed the movement and evolution of trance, you would have noticed how a certain underground-club sound turned into a popy vocal cheese track that you hear on radio. It's amazing really how this music style which was meant to be underground, hypnotic and dark turned to the very thing that you hear on the radio.

What's even more strange is that many time, the bounderies between trance and other music genres, such as pop, are being wiped out, leaving the listener with a bad taste and new comers with a WRONG impression of what trance is and most important used to be.
I, personally have been in the scene for quite some time now and I've seen how the sound evolved, from creativity to dull uplifting (which, by the way seems to be exactly what you need to get signed with a major label this days, just another uplifting/melodic crap) and to other radio-infused pop.

Listen to these:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TxvpctgU_s8

and

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8K8J1BnHw


So tell me....do you listen to trance?

Mmm... first one, yes. Second one, no, I find it extremely boring.

Actually, around where I live, I have never once heard anyone tell me trance is dead. It's alive and kicking as far as I can tell. It's even sometimes favored at roll parties over house. That's an accomplishment, methinks.

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Originally posted by Chimney How long have you been listening to trance? 1-2? 3 years at most?

Since 1999 actually. Bought my first vinyls in the beginning of 2000.

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Well, if you had followed the movement and evolution of trance, you would have noticed how a certain underground-club sound turned into a popy vocal cheese track that you hear on radio. It's amazing really how this music style which was meant to be underground, hypnotic and dark turned to the very thing that you hear on the radio. What's even more strange is that many time, the bounderies between trance and other music genres, such as pop, are being wiped out, leaving the listener with a bad taste and new comers with a WRONG impression of what trance is and most important used to be. I, personally have been in the scene for quite some time now and I've seen how the sound evolved, from creativity to dull uplifting (which, by the way seems to be exactly what you need to get signed with a major label this days, just another uplifting/melodic crap) and to other radio-infused pop. Listen to these: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=TxvpctgU_s8 and http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=EK8K8J1BnHw So tell me....do you listen to trance?

What is wrong with a music genre changing? I still think there are loads of underground trance music nowadays. But first I'd like to hear what "classic" track you'd call underground in particular, in order to define what you mean by underground. As trance isn't being played in mainstream radio anywhere that I know of!

The last track you posted is cool, and yes In and out of love is a disgrace to trance music. But don't you think anything after that second track you posted was creative?

For instance, what about : http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZzD7rjDqdU&feature=related ?

How do you define creativity in trance music?

According to you, trance IS dead, or what do you think? If so, did the big parties ruin it? Did DJMag's top 100 DJ list ruin it? Did Armin's radioshow ruin it?

When i listen new tracks, i many times wait new things to occur. Its just, this will not happen. The formula of the track is always the same, many sounds are always the same, beats are always the same. I bet there is also different sounds which you can use, so why artists doesn't do it?

Im not really enjoying listen new tracks, but im happy when i found something different. Also, it sickens me when i read those tracklists where same tracks are rolling 10000 times.

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Originally posted by THE_MARSBAR Things can't be revolutionary or evolving all the time

But they are.

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