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From today, anyone taking a photograph of a police officer could be deemed to have committed a criminal offence. That is because of a new law - Section 76 of the Counter Terrorism Act - which has come into force. It permits the arrest of anyone found "eliciting, publishing or communicating information" relating to members of the armed forces, intelligence services and police officers, which is "likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism". That means anyone taking a picture of one of those people could face a fine or a prison sentence of up to 10 years, if a link to terrorism is proved. The law has angered photographers, both professional and amateur, who fear it could exacerbate the harassment they already sometimes face. On Monday, a group is gathering outside New Scotland Yard for a "mass picture-taking session" in protest. The event is organised by the National Union of Journalists. It insists the right to take pictures in public places is "a precious freedom" that must be safeguarded. NUJ organiser John Toner said: "Police officers are in news pictures at all sorts of events - football matches, carnivals, state processions - so the union wants to make it clear that taking their pictures is not the act of a criminal." The problems we can see arising are with junior officers using the legislation to overcome situations they find uncomfortable Neil Turner British Press Photographers' Association Innocent photographer or terrorist? 'Suspicious circumstances' The British Journal of Photography recently reported an incident involving a photographer in Cleveland who was stopped by a police officer while taking pictures of ships. He was asked if he was connected to terrorism, which he wasn't, and told his details would be kept on file. A Cleveland police spokeswoman told the journal that "in order to verify a person's actions as being entirely innocent," anyone in "suspicious circumstances" could be asked to explain themselves. Photojournalist Marc Vallée is among those angry at the law. He specialises in covering protests and fears for the implications of Section 76. "Alarm bells really are ringing," he told the BBC News website. "I know some of it sounds a bit funny. Train spotters being stopped for taking pictures, that sort of thing, but I've spoken to people who've been on their own, at night and they're surrounded by several officers. It can be intimidating. "It may be that officers are just doing their best with a bad law, but if that's the case, they need guidance to tell them, 'Stop harassing photographers.'" Mr Vallée also pointed out that members of the Royal Family were part of the Armed Forces. "Are we going to be stopped from photographing them?" he said. Photographers say they are frequently being stopped and searched 'Outrageous' The NUJ said some police officers wrongly believed they had the right to delete photographers' images. Other critics, meanwhile, fear the new law could inhibit their right to peaceful, democratic protest. Leo Murray is a spokesman for climate change campaign group Plane Stupid. His members film any direct action they take. "It's outrageous," he told the BBC News website. "It's yet another in a long line of measures designed to erode people's civil liberties. "Being able to film the police has completely changed the way they are able to police our protests. It's made us much, much safer and the risks of a violent confrontation have almost disappeared. "If we couldn't film they could act with impunity, they could just mete out violence with the confidence that nobody would find out. "There's absolutely no way we are going to observe this ban. If they try to bring charges against us we will fight them in the courts." In a statement, Number 10 said that while there were no legal restrictions on taking pictures in public places, "the law applies to photographers as it does to anybody else". "So there may be situations in which the taking of photographs may cause or lead to public order situations, inflame an already tense situation, or raise security considerations," it said. Photographers could therefore be asked to "move on" for the safety of themselves or others. "Each situation will be different and it would be an operational matter for the police officer concerned as to what action should be taken," the statement added. Junior officers This discretion, however, is what some feel is the key problem with the law. Critics fear the new law could stop them photographing legitimate protests Neil Turner, vice chairman of the British Press Photographers' Association, said he believed there was no intention among senior ranks of the police to prevent legitimate photography. "The problems that we can see arising are with junior officers using the legislation to overcome situations that they find uncomfortable or where they make judgements about photography and don't know how to apply the legislation on the ground," he said. "We firmly expect that there will be inappropriate uses of the act and that someone will end up in front of a judge before there is some clarity and before the purpose of the act is properly defined." The Metropolitan Police insisted the law was intended to protect counter-terrorism officers and any prosecution would have to be in the public interest. "For the offence to be committed, the information would have to raise a reasonable suspicion that it was intended to be used to provide practical assistance to terrorists," it said. "Taking photographs of police officers would not, except in very exceptional circumstances, be caught by this offence."

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Here we go! The most democratic country ever.

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Brits still worried about Islamic terrorism? Notice how the Islamic terrorism only started when Blair joined Bush on his War on Islam in the Middle East. Don't fuck with the Muslims and they won't fuck you. That's generally how the world works.

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When I was there the Tube was filthy and I asked some guy on the train why there are no garbage cans anywhere and he said because they were worried about terrorists stuffing bombs in them, so everyone would just dump all their hamburger wrappers and booze bottles all over the train and it would get cleaned at the end of it's route.

I guess for the past few decades the UK has had to worry about terrorism whether it be IRA or home grown Islamic extremism.

The Olympics will be ridiculous, mark my words.

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Originally posted by Alex When I was there the Tube was filthy and I asked some guy on the train why there are no garbage cans anywhere and he said because they were worried about terrorists stuffing bombs in them, so everyone would just dump all their hamburger wrappers and booze bottles all over the train and it would get cleaned at the end of it's route. I guess for the past few decades the UK has had to worry about terrorism whether it be IRA or home grown Islamic extremism. The Olympics will be ridiculous, mark my words.

Totally true!

I hate walking in central london, it's impossible to find a garbage bin anywhere.

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There are no bins in any train station in the country! Been like that my whole life!

Why does the UK seem so regressive lately?

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Originally posted by Krypton Brits still worried about Islamic terrorism? Notice how the Islamic terrorism only started when Blair joined Bush on his War on Islam in the Middle East. Don't fuck with the Muslims and they won't fuck you. That's generally how the world works.

............... Now where is George Smiley at to tell you are wrong? You see moderate Muslims are very different than Radical Muslims. Why would they be outraged by that then?

Oh yeah.... Its about time the UK grew some balls. Country needs more Pat Condell.

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Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS ............... Now where is George Smiley at to tell you are wrong? You see moderate Muslims are very different than Radical Muslims. Why would they be outraged by that then?

Why would I tell him he is wrong?

Do I see a little arrogance coming from the UK? What would have made them act this way to such a lovely, peacefull religon? What a shame I just dont understand.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/...trategy-muslims

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Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS Do I see a little arrogance coming from the UK? What would have made them act this way to such a lovely, peacefull religon? What a shame I just dont understand..... http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/...trategy-muslims

Seriously mate, go and read my posts in the other thread.

My main point is that extremists are a small minority and don't represent the entire Muslim community (esp in the UK), BUT, extremists should be opposed

Is that really something you find so hard to understand?

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Originally posted by BARS-N-STARS ............... Now where is George Smiley at to tell you are wrong? You see moderate Muslims are very different than Radical Muslims. Why would they be outraged by that then?

maybe because im not wrong?

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