I don't have a fear of hell because I don't believe in it. Wooooooo

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Is hell even in the Bible?

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Originally posted by coroknight ...because I don't believe in it. Wooooooo

Yeah, neither do I. The funny thing is that I still fear possibilities sometimes.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Is hell even in the Bible?

Depends on which type of Christian you ask, I suppose. According to the ones I grew up with, it most certainly was.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Yeah, neither do I. The funny thing is that I still fear possibilities sometimes.

If you believed something through your childhood and most of your life then you can't expect the psychological affects to go away immediately.

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Originally posted by coroknight If you believed something through your childhood and most of your life then you can't expect the psychological affects to go away immediately.

Exactly.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Depends on which type of Christian you ask, I suppose. According to the ones I grew up with, it most certainly was.

To be honest the thing that really scares me of the thought of complete nothingness, an end to perception. And the worst thing is that it's the only logical outcome of what I believe. I'd welcome any kind of afterlife, however hellish. It would be a bonus.

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Hey man, I hear you. I left the religion i was indocrinated too, but switch the girl with canadian bacon in my case.

Seriously though, you have to realize the power of this fear thats planted into you. It is the tool that keeps you with the beleif, and a fear strong enough that you dont want the little ones to suffer such a reality and indoctrinate them as well. You essentially teach kids an ideology early on that will greatly affect how they handle any change in their life, and decisions and conclusions will be made on how it affect this sacred ideology. the rational part of you should be able to say "if i had no concept of the monotheistic hell in the first place, i would not be feeling this feeling"

My views of hell are far worse than fire, they are pure psychological mindfucks of twisted reality. The possibilities for this are endless really. The person who originally contrived hell-fire was a noob. how amateur really, todays sciencefiction writers could do much better.

I imagine the prophet mohammed today infront of a modern psychiatrist, and the image is very amusing and comforting.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Sometimes I find myself frightened by the possibility that maybe I'm really wrong not to believe in God and that when I die I'll be sent to hell and suffer eternally for being a non-believer. Maybe in spite of having thought pretty carefully about religion, I reached the wrong conclusions. Yeah, a lot of the ideas in religions don't make any sense to me, and the evidence in their favor really seems spare to non-existent, and it seems like most of the world's smartest people don't put much stock in the fire and brimstone stuff (even if some pretty smart ones are religious in other senses), but it seems like my ideas about what "makes sense" or what constitutes "good evidence" could be off-kilter in some way, and I could end up believing the wrong things because of that. And then I wonder whether I could ever genuinely worship a god who chose to deal out eternal pain to those who didn't believe in him, even if I were convinced there was good evidence for his existence. I'm leaning toward "no."

Your fear and doubt seem to be born of an imperfect understanding of Christianity. First and foremost; the church (RC, which should be taken as the most authoritative voice on Christianity... of course I'm somewhat biased) does not and has never held the position that one must be a Christian (of any sect) in order to enter "the kingdom of heaven." You need not fear hell because you do not believe. Second; there is no physical hell (official church position); rather, hell is a state of anguish the soul experiences as a result of not receiving the love of God. Third; God does not choose to deal out eternal pain; rather, the individual chooses to suffer it themselves by rejecting God's love... God extends his love to all equally regardless of whether or not we believe we merit it. Finally, hell is not an eternal state, the suffering only lasts as long as one rejects love; however, given that the afterlife is not a physical place any discussion of time in regards to the afterlife is pure folly, as time only exists in a physical world. I suspect you received a particular bent of religious instruction as a child and require a fuller understanding... with that your fears would dissolve.

If you really want to discuss these ideas or your fears please PM me... I'm no priest but I may be able to help (without evangelizing).

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J To be honest the thing that really scares me of the thought of complete nothingness, an end to perception.

but at the end of day, perception is the source of all human fear, pain and other unpleasant feelings, so if you are to simply seize to exist (aka complete nothingness) you will not be giving a flying fuck about it. but still... its hard to imagine the non-existence of yourself. i think it's impossible to imagine since not existing is radically different from any other form of being, right? and yikes!.. i'm not a christian... hope they have pizza in hell

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard If you really want to discuss these ideas or your fears please PM me...

omg 666

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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi The person who originally contrived hell-fire was a noob. how amateur really, todays sciencefiction writers could do much better.

I think it's a clumsy metaphor for the level of suffering... honestly, an iron aged people probably couldn't conceive of anything more painful then burning forever without the relief of death.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down