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crazedonee
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another sidechain question

I see a lot of people use sidechain with the bass and kick ,but im sure there are other uses for it like the pad and the lead.

im sure there may be some posts on this in the past but could not find any but do you guys use sidechain to make the lead more prominent when it shares the same frequencies with the kick just curious. maybe you guys could post some samples for example. thanks.


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Ry Thomas
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There are a few kylie minogue tracks where ive noticed the lead falls out when the vox come in, very subtly though, proffessionally mixed


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owien
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yes sidechaing has many uses its a great tool/method off making things work and can be used to drive the track along or to build things up.

i write my own sidchain patterns rather then using the compressors it gives me more control

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derail
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Lately I've been sidechaining leads. A really low ratio, and fast release, so it's really only touching the very front end of the sound when the lead is playing on the beat. It's not really noticeable sidechaining, but cleans things up a little. I'm still experimenting though, so I may go away from this technique soon!

After the "Sean Tyas tips" thread I've also gone with using an extremely short hihat sample as the sidechain trigger, and so far I'm liking the results. I send it to the various instruments I'm sidechaining, and adjust the ratios and release times for each - it is easier to get the release timing right for each instrument, using an extremely short trigger.

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Luke Terry
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There a lot of sidechained pads in the trance world right now...


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music2dance2
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Something I havent tried but Ive heard is good is sidechaining your percs to the kick like you would bass. Creates more space and add's some energy and groove. The Sean Tyas tip thread sounds interesting, will look for that. Is that from his appearance at the itunes shop?

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derail
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It was in the "production questions for Sean Tyas" thread. Last post in that thread was July 3rd.

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music2dance2
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yeah i found it thanks man.

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kitphillips
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Sidechained pads sound ace IMO. Also sidechained strings are great. Its a very trance sound though, it definately marks something out as being big and uplifting.


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Mr.Mystery
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The overuse of sidechain has completely ruined so many tracks it's not even funny anymore. I'd personally like to meet and thank the person who initially thought it would be a good idea.


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Luke Terry
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Can't even blame Eric Prydz as call on me had every part individually faded rather than sidechained... imagine how long that would have taken!


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derail
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Can't even blame Eric Prydz as call on me had every part individually faded rather than sidechained... imagine how long that would have taken!


With fader automation or manual fader riding (actually, the latter doesn't make much sense these days, especially for dance styles). If it's fader automation, I'd be amazed if he didn't just copy and paste the automation once he was happy with the curve for one beat/bar. Pointless waste of time to draw in a whole song of automation manually.

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