Are there any VST samplers which can time-stretch on the fly so that if you play a sampled note up the keyboard the length stays the same and perhaps also the formant is preserved?

If you know one (or more), please tell a bit of how the time-stretching works and how good the quality is, etc..

Does Native Instruments samplers have this for example, any others?!

Thanks alot!

Last edited by Dance123 on May-07-2010 at 20:10

kontakt has the loop slicer, you could try with it =)

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i am looking for a vst sampler that does time-stretching on the fly so if you play a sampled note up the keyboard the lenght stays the same instead of becoming shorter.. which sampler(s) have this?!

Kontakt has it I think.

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I believe FL Granulizer (which is not really a sampler but can work like one) will auto-time stretch on the fly.

As in you just load any sample, and no matter what key you hit it will try to keep the length the same and time-stretch by default.

I have noticed however with real short stabby samples it doesn't work (plucks and what not) and the more higher frequencies the sound has generally the more noticeable that metallic resampling overtone (like you would hear in melodyne or autotune).

It works well enough I suppose for quick "on the fly" type stuff, just make sure your sample has some sustain to it otherwise its going to fuck it up. Oh and this isn't a vst its a native vst, you would have to get FL Studio to use it or swipe it some other way illegally.

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Thanks for the replies!

It seems that Kontakt has this indeed with something called Time Machine, watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVICuRMLFKM

Anybody who has Kontakt can tell more about it, like why there is also a Time Machine 2 mode and if you can also set it up so that the formant is preserved when you play a sampled note up the keyboard.

Also, does only Kontakt have this? Strange, cause with so many sample cds having only single samples of there synth sounds, time-stretching is the only way to use them well across the entire keyboard, don't you agree?

Cheers to all!

Hmm.. seems the quality of the timestretching in Kontakt isn't that great, read here: http://www.native-instruments.com/f...ad.php?p=663402

BTW, Ableton has apparently really good timestretching quality, but does "Sampler" from Ableton have realtime timestretching cause they don't mention it anywhere and when i watch the demo videos i don't see any timestretching options.. strange that there own Sampler doesn't have it where everybody agrees that the quality of timestretch in Ableton is really good.

Last edited by Dance123 on May-07-2010 at 22:05

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Originally posted by Dance123 Thanks for the replies! It seems that Kontakt has this indeed with something called Time Machine, watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVICuRMLFKM Anybody who has Kontakt can tell more about it, like why there is also a Time Machine 2 mode and if you can also set it up so that the formant is preserved when you play a sampled note up the keyboard. Also, does only Kontakt have this? Strange, cause with so many sample cds having only single samples of there synth sounds, time-stretching is the only way to use them well across the entire keyboard, don't you agree? Cheers to all!

Yep, time machine's the one you want. To be honest no one really time stretches samples. Its more conventional to have a sample for every key, or make a sample for every second key and time stretch in a dedicated program.

Kontakt has time stretch, no ableton's sampler doesn't. But its a great tool for fucking up sounds in a big way. Highly recommended for that.

What exactly are you trying to do here? I assumed it was some sort of obscure sound design project involving pitching found sounds up and down so that they can be played. in that case, I think you probably want to use a combination of multisampling (to preserve the original character) and time stretching.

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You could always just look at the specs of different samplers like halion, mach5. But the whole point of sampling is to get some character going, its sposed to sound gnarly a bit.

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Last edited by kitphillips on May-08-2010 at 06:29

you can do what you want with sampler including timestretch, but of course you have to think outside the box.

Simpler is easier to use when trying to timestretch. I remember doing patches here with simpler scratching in the beat and in realtime, and half double speed too! But of course it sounds fucked up. LOL

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