this is where most of my difficulty seems to lie in ..sometimes i end up with a entire track.but the one thing missing is the bass, when its probably the x factor of dance music, and the reason is i can never find the right sound/preset to sit well with the rest of the track. I heard a lot of reviews about trilian, but i cant afford that right now, what are some other modules that you guys would recommend?

An understanding of layering may serve you better than another VST.

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hmm i never really looked into layering bass sounds yet.

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Originally posted by LoveHate hmm i never really looked into layering bass sounds yet.

I've always found it's a good idea to separate the subby part of the bassline from the rhythmic (mid-lows) parts. One isn't necessarily compatible with the other.

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Any good reads on the subject?

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Agree layering is a great way to make bass. 1 synth as the sub, and 1 or 2 other synths for mids or adding some top end or grit or what ever you need. Search youtube for some help, there is loads on there

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Originally posted by Xilver Any good reads on the subject?

Maybe this helps: http://www.squidoo.com/bigbadbass

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Some people freak out about layering basses but I've never gotten a single decent bass sound out of one patch before. Trillian, Sylenth and Predator all work wonders for basses but you really need to layer sub basses with the mids to get it to sound "full", that is if that's the sound you're trying to achieve.

Basses used to cripple me too, it just came with experience I guess.

Bass is one area that instantly ceased to be a problem once I got my Little Phatty. One patch, fairly simple, straight out of the unit. Bass done. In fact, frequently, i have to tone it down quite a bit with EQ because the bass is too massive.

Yo,

Recently i have been layering 2 basses together using Trillian.

The first bass is just a punchy, round offbeat basline pattern with an arp bassline pattern which is deeper than the first but not as punchy, seems to work really well

Mark

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Do you guys generally make your layers have different rythms or just use them purely to get more timbral control?

I've tried to put an offbeat sub in my tracks along with the mid bass (in a different pattern) but it generally comes out pretty muddy... Maybe my kick is eating up too much lows or maybe I need to highpass my mid bass more viciously, but then I find I lose the most pleasing frequencies of that sound...

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i've always been a fan of 1 synth patch bass; you can make either work. having a good base oscillator helps a ton.