Maybe I'm just in s shitty mood or something but Australia's scene really sux!
For me. An under 18 TrancEaddict from Sydney. As far as the club scene goes for me I may as well shoot myself. Elevation Yay. Under 18s f**king RnB rubbish. I want something real. Something awsome, something where everyone else knows what is going on. I talk to so many people my age that like 'dance' music. Then when I say I go to Elevation sometimes they ask me if I do breakdancing there! GRRRRRRR

Also TrancEaddicts. Where is there quality trance? Altitude. Good on you Morro! Someone has finally taken some initiative. I feel even more sorry for you Melbourne people. But Altitude is great news!
But I really get sick of al these funky house, commercial dance fricken things. I mean I still like it but there is only so much house I can take. I get sick of it after about 30 min.

Then also. There are not many opportunities for Australian Trance DJs to get gigs as the main trance things that come here are huge events like GSSS and GK. Basically we're stranded.

Hopefully Trance might expand a bit. Get rid of some crap.
My hatred for the Australian scene could be viewed as a good thing as it makes me appreciate trance more!

Please if you think what I've said is a load of bullshit just send my an abusive PM. Thanks

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hmm...in general...nope, australia's pretty awesome compared to the rest of the world

...but yeah i can totally understand Trancey...what u're saying in regards to the scene here (it barely exists )

hheeh...have to agree with the housey shit...does nothing for me, but i'll listen to it...but every bloody club u can poke a stick at is throttling it out

tho, i kinda think that it's also a good thing...not only so we can appreciate trance more, as u say...but also so people who r into it, are into it because they like it!

ie. not because it's the latest fad, or it's the "cool" thing to do, or because all their friends do it...but because it's something we connect with & appreciate the music

hmm...hope that explains what i mean...i'm not too good with words

ya, thanks to altitude!!!
nice work!!!

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Originally posted by Fraggle tho, i kinda think that it's also a good thing...not only so we can appreciate trance more, as u say...but also so people who r into it, are into it because they like it! ie. not because it's the latest fad, or it's the "cool" thing to do, or because all their friends do it...but because it's something we connect with & appreciate the music

AGREED. Man i seriously FEAR the day people like trance cause its the next trend. i know im gonna go ape shit and just want to hurt someone if that happens.

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If trance did become the next fad, sure we would have some simple songs on video hits (the likes of punk, flight 643, etc) but, this can only be a good thing. Instead of going out and hearing every club play progressive housey stuff which is so popular (at least in perth along with dnb) we would be able to hear trance. Then, a year or so down the track something else would come along and take over, but, some clubs would still play the trance that we love.

Which is better than what we have now.

look at 1999 and how it nearly destroyed the trance scene overseas...never want that to happen again..trance is very popular at the moment overseas but hopefully it just stays at the level...let the magazines etc praise and destroy other genres...

in terms of australia..we have it good here...i dont know about sydney but melbournes scene is much healthier than all of europe except for proably holland and greece...dont feel sorry for us bout the trance! our trance night is coming

p.s your 17...you should be going to the big events already! dont know how strict they are over there but here they arent strict at all

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Originally posted by escee If trance did become the next fad, sure we would have some simple songs on video hits (the likes of punk, flight 643, etc) but, this can only be a good thing. Instead of going out and hearing every club play progressive housey stuff which is so popular (at least in perth along with dnb) we would be able to hear trance. Then, a year or so down the track something else would come along and take over, but, some clubs would still play the trance that we love. Which is better than what we have now.

i'm gonna have to disagree with you there because i'd hate the day when i'm walking down the street and hear a couple of little teeney boppers chatting as to how 'cool' trance is ....lol....i just feel that we TA's are the social elite...we have seen the light,so to speak and those who dont know how good trance is are mising out....we have discovered how good this stuff really is!! so lets not currupt such a good thing by making it mainstream or'cool', as when we do we'll have every loser turning up to, say another Two Tribes, GC,GK event because they want to be 'cool. I'm sure that nobody wants that because it'll wreck it for those who go to these events because they love the music.Anyway i dont think trance was ever meant to be mainstream .
But hey this is simply my opinion and you guys or girls could totally disagree with me. But do we realy want losers at our events ? I THINK NOT MY FELLOW TA FRIENDS

I agree that the under 18s events suck, but I'm afraid that's life...under 18s places played cheesy commercial shite when I was 16-17, probably played it when everybody else on this board was that age, and they'll probably still be playing the same type of stuff in 30 years time.

But that's just a perception thing. It's a natural association: under 18 = teenybopper. Probably not true in a lot of cases, but very true in most others. And promoters see it the same way too. It's all about catering for a market. If you got all the nightclubbing inclined, trance-loving under 18's in Sydney together, you'd probably find there aren't a lot of you.

Dance music tends to be music that you only find as you get older. In my case, I didn't really discover good dance music until I was 18 when I was still into grunge metal. I was dragged down Oxford St a few times to places like NV and DCM, realised the music wasn't half as bad as I thought it was, flipped on Wild FM the next day, and my education had begun. Note that that was in the days before Wild started playing cheesy commercial crap purely to appeal to the under 18's.

So you just happen to be a rare breed, someone lucky enough to have seen and heard good music before your time .. your time will come, young grasshopper

But in terms of over 18s events, I don't think it's as bad as you say. Sure most places do play funk/rnb/house shite, but there are the exceptions. Icebox on Thursdays is apparently pretty good (never been tho ), Sublime Fridays will usually play hard trance, Gas on Saturdays also has pretty good music.

Agreed, three clubs isn't much, it would be good to see more, but I don't know if there is enough new trance being produced both here and overseas to satisfy demand. You don't want to be hearing the same tracks over and over again (like Tiesto's sets this year )

So yeah, chin up mate. Sorry for the post length

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Personally I think trance belongs in the underground, that is it isn't mainstream. But we still don't have enough of it going around. 3 clubs Webby, [sarcasm] yaaaay [/sarcasm].

We can't have it all, so be happy with what you've got, 'coz let's face it, it's fantastic!

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Yeah it frustrates me,well it does here in Adelaide anyway. Some people are t00 aragant when it comes to accepting the trance music scene.

Does no one here love a lot of other types of music as well? i'm happy if the club i'm at is playing good music, be it trance, house, dnb,techno, dub even! It all has it's good points. The psy trance scene in melbourne is really good! Try going out to freebase on a sunday night or glow bar, or filter on wednesday for great music and fantastic atmosphere in ton's of styles, or laundry on a monday, hi-fi on wednesday, try some of these, damn fine music to be had.

Happyness to all.

Now that I'm in a good mood. (Prob cause I just d/l On the Move - Barthezz). I think I'll look again?

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Originally posted by escee If trance did become the next fad, sure we would have some simple songs on video hits (the likes of punk, flight 643, etc) but, this can only be a good thing. Instead of going out and hearing every club play progressive housey stuff which is so popular (at least in perth along with dnb) we would be able to hear trance. Then, a year or so down the track something else would come along and take over, but, some clubs would still play the trance that we love.

Yeh definately! I want trance to get a bit more popular but not to the funk/house scene popular at the moment. It's a really fine line between fucking up the scene and making it rock.

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Originally posted by stipsy p.s your 17...you should be going to the big events already! dont know how strict they are over there but here they arent strict at all

I'm only 16 plus i don't look 18 at all so I'm shitted. I've never tryed to get into a big event as i don't wanna book tickets for somtthing like GCSSS then they tell me to bugger off at the gate. Plus do I just go up like normal. Wont they ask me for ID? I don't particularly want to pay $75 bucks for a fakey.

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Originally posted by nelsonca i just feel that we TA's are the social elite...we have seen the light,so to speak and those who dont know how good trance is are mising out....

AGREED!

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Originally posted by webmeister Agreed, three clubs isn't much, it would be good to see more, but I don't know if there is enough new trance being produced both here and overseas to satisfy demand. You don't want to be hearing the same tracks over and over again (like Tiesto's sets this year)

Yeh they don't just churn out trance at a million miles an hour like other genres. Makes it more special.
BTW do and DJs here ever play anthem sets? Like just full on Anthems to relive the best trance songs! Geez that would be a great night!

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Originally posted by mr_stamper Some people are t00 aragant when it comes to accepting the trance music scene.

Yeh thats what I hate! When someone asks you "what music you like?". You say Trance proudly and they go "pfft" as if to say thats shit. That's what really annoys me!

Anyways Cheers All

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Trancey Ash if the scene did get fucked up it would level out eventually.