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kadomony
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"Mystical" Feeling?

Hey, I'm wondering if anybody has some insight on what creates a mystical sound. I'm sure it's just me, but perhaps someone else gets the same feeling from this kind of sequence.

Hard to describe as it's a feeling, but I want to say it's like an ancient mystical temple in the future or something. (yeah yeah, i know abstract shit.) I only had this sound one time before, unfortunately its stuck in an flp and I dont have FL installed anymore.

So, I'm looking for a way to make some alternate ways of creating this sound. However, I'm trying to determine if it's based in the particular note sequence, the note length, the effects (delay-->reverb), or something else.

Notes are: A# C# D# F
Interestingly, I don't get the same feeling when I transpose to any other key. I think it's the C# D# A# in particular that is contributing.

Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1734626/mystic.mp3


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Re: "Mystical" Feeling?

quote:
Originally posted by kadomony
Hey, I'm wondering if anybody has some insight on what creates a mystical sound. I'm sure it's just me, but perhaps someone else gets the same feeling from this kind of sequence.

Hard to describe as it's a feeling, but I want to say it's like an ancient mystical temple in the future or something. (yeah yeah, i know abstract shit.) I only had this sound one time before, unfortunately its stuck in an flp and I dont have FL installed anymore.

So, I'm looking for a way to make some alternate ways of creating this sound. However, I'm trying to determine if it's based in the particular note sequence, the note length, the effects (delay-->reverb), or something else.

Notes are: A# C# D# F
Interestingly, I don't get the same feeling when I transpose to any other key. I think it's the C# D# A# in particular that is contributing.

Download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1734626/mystic.mp3


Delay seems to be the trick... And it's a pretty common sequence, IMO.

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J.L.
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It's probably the timbre of the sound you are using, it's envelope and effects...

You can make any 4 notes make like an ancient mystical temple in the future (which is sorta an oxymoron)

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I really feel like I should contribute something in this thread but that sample is so far removed from what I'd call 'mystical' i'm just left sort of confused.

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quote:
Originally posted by meriter
I really feel like I should contribute something in this thread but that sample is so far removed from what I'd call 'mystical' i'm just left sort of confused.


i second this notion


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xU09AXhlkk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W7Fpc9rUBw
http://www.pussyslayer.com/i/02 _Ya Ma Le.mp3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Yw7Jh81w0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkpaJ6FAfZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H85BKniMzHc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1KYEQRgjDU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLOth-BuCNY

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two major chords not fitting together. see prodigy - break and enter for example. those might be minor when i think of it.

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first chord is minor, second is major. Tritone relation.


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your right.

heres another example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMfT...feature=related

another one, use arabic shit melodies (one up from basenote?? i dont kno the term). typical in psy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDG_FHpJI9E

it should be said too that if you repeat something for long enough you will start to hear its hidden voices. thats pretty mystical imo.

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if I where to score something mystical, I would use whole tone scales. That is pretty much the standard way to sound mystical. Of course I don't really think the OP means mystical just like people throw the word uplifting around without knowing what they are trying to describe.

Scriabin had a chord later to be called the mystic chord but that has more to do with his religious nuttery than how it sounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystic_chord

to the op, i know it is rather pedantic but you should spell that chord Bb db f with an added 4/11. Also, unless you are using a mean tone or similar non equal tuning on your piano/keybaord/daw, changing keys will not make it sound different. IT is all in your head.


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Buy any wavetable synth, find a preset with the word 'temple' in it and hold down any key for seven minutes.


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kadomony
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Hey thanks for the input guys.

I think it comes down to 3 things, the delay and the timbre, and perhaps personal preference for those notes. I took off the delay and it lost some of the effect, but the 32nd notes still gave me a little bit of the sound. I changed the sound I used, which lessened the effect. I'm pretty sure the other project also used plucky virus sounds and would venture to guess that sequence used the same notes.

And yes, by "mystical" I don't mean any concrete idea, I'm just using it as the description of the feeling/picture I get from it.


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