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Alpha219
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Registered: Jun 2009
Location: Venice, CA
Work in progress

I've been working on tweeking up a "bass sound" that doesn't sound so much like a real electric bass, but rather a keyboard bass sound. Anyway I'll probably still be working on this song 6 months from now....
Radiance of Light by Alien Disco Roadkill


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Beatflux
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You have some decent ideas, and you need a proper structure. The intro sounds good except for that plain hat, put some distortion on it or something.


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Evolve140
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Registered: Mar 2005
Location: Denver

Synth that comes in at 29 is fitting strangely in the mix. Very loud. Like BF said, some cool ideas but I think the mixdown needs the most work.

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Alpha219
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Thanks for the help. Right now I'm not concerned much with the mix until I work out the arrangement and all the garnishing sounds. I've got sensory overload from hearing this song too many times.

quote:
The intro sounds good except for that plain hat,

I like Tiesto so that's the inspiration for using that hat.

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you need a proper structure.

As far as verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus or what?


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Beatflux
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Intro Break Chorus Break Chorus Outro


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Evolve140
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Originally posted by Alpha219
Thanks for the help. Right now I'm not concerned much with the mix until I work out the arrangement and all the garnishing sounds. I've got sensory overload from hearing this song too many times.


I like Tiesto so that's the inspiration for using that hat.


As far as verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, chorus or what?


Well hopefully we can help more, I mean, for me it wouldn't be tolerable to focus on other things while the mixdown has such gaping holes in it. The loudness is obviously a problem and it wouldn't take very much to notch it into the mix a little better. This is where you are going to want to start approaching the mix pragmatically, figuring out whether or not the channel itself is too loud in the mixdown, or if you're dealing with an EQ problem that is creating the perception of loudness due to a frequency area being plagued by arguments or conflicts.

Noticeable abrasions in the mixdown should be swiftly dealt with before trying to approach your song in any further linear fashion, that element just sits very poorly in the mix. If you continue decision making and production at this stage I think the creative choices would be, in at least some respect, accommodating this poor sound in the mix.

In the end, a good song comes from proper decision making throughout the whole process, since as a producer you are also the composer and engineer, those two aspects tend to reciprocate each other. Who knows, maybe fitting that in the mix better will help inspire you finish it in another manner you hadn't thought of, and may inspire what becomes the final product.

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Alpha219
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it wouldn't take very much to notch it into the mix a little better.

With Waves MultiMaximizer or something like that?


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Evolve140
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No, like EQ, compression, and then sitting it at a proper loudness on your mixer.

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G-Con
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Registered: Jun 2006
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The arrangement is a little messy. You have a relentless kick for ages with very little in the way of building tension or introducing elements in a way that makes sense. Then a break towards the very end with a short melody then back to the kick.

It won't be that difficult to re-arrange with the exisitng elements you have. Just think a little more of where the track is going. I hate to give this advice but try taking a couple of pro tracks you like that are in a smiliar style and see how theirs is arranged, compared to yours.

Before any of that though, I would drag all your volume faders to the bottom. Then bring your kick up so it peaks somewhere between -5db - 10db (there's no hard rule here, so its up to you). Then one by one bring in the other elements, setting a suitable level in relation to the kick. At the moment, there are some parts which are far too loud and all they need is lowering the volume before worrying about EQ or compression.

Keep at it!


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