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Haunted
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Registered: Oct 2001
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fading techniques

was wondering what you guys use as fading techniques
I hear the pro's use volume faders and keep the xfaders in the middle
what do you guys do?


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Old Post Aug-29-2002 01:24  Zimbabwe
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DJ LIQUID
House DJ 4 Life



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: IL USA

i use both

the crossfader to bring it in...and the volume faders to fade out


if im just cutting fast i just use the crossfader

Old Post Aug-29-2002 01:26  Mexico
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mikefasssy
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Vancouver

yea i switch it up all the time. i even heard of someone using the gains to mix!!!!


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TBA
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Sydney

I only use the cross-fader for scratching (not very often). I use volume to fade in the new track and I also sometimes use the gain if a track is significantly louder/softer. I adjust the gain so that when I have the track at the desired volume the volume slider is at 0. Personally I'd lurrrrrve a Rane rotary mixer and get rid of the cross-fader all together.

Old Post Aug-29-2002 10:34  Australia
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Dj Thy
Deckhead



Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

Same here, mixing with the line faders, and using the xfader for scratching and fast cutting (hmm, now that I think about it, even then...).

Old Post Aug-29-2002 11:00  Belgium
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JohnSmith
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Kamloops

Well, i'm different from everyone i guess. I use the cross fader exclusively. I leave the volume faders at 100% pretty much the whole time. I just use EQs and gain to get the songs the right volumes, and slide it on over.

Old Post Aug-29-2002 15:19  Canada
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Subsonik
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Registered: May 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by mikefasssy
yea i switch it up all the time. i even heard of someone using the gains to mix!!!!


I mix with the gains...i can better fade with the gains as with the faders

Old Post Aug-29-2002 17:31  Netherlands
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Arty
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Edinburgh, UK

Using the faders gives you a lot more control, as you can adjust each track individually and keep a good eye on your levels. Xfaders are also smaller, so you can't be as subtle. Most pros don't use the xfader for exactly this reason.

You certainly shouldn't use the gain - that's for adjusting levels so that when the two tracks are on 100% on the faders they're at the same average volume, which is fairly essential.

Old Post Aug-29-2002 17:36  United Kingdom
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fieroavian
Mentally Sick



Registered: Jun 2002
Location: Netherworld

oh yea that reminds me. john '00' fleming was using the volume faders when i saw him live last sunday, he wasn't using the crossfader at all! i was like, maybe the mixer has a different setup? didn't know that was a better way to mix.

Old Post Aug-30-2002 08:38  Canada
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Dj Thy
Deckhead



Registered: May 2001
Location: Belgium, Earth

Just think it of that way

A regular fader on a mixer measures 60 mm (you got 100 mm faders too). This 60 mm is used for the full 0 to 100% volume.

Now a regular crossfader measures 45 mm. Let's assume it has a normal curve and no dip, meaning the volume will be at full in the middle.
So that means that to go from 0 to 100% volume you only have half of 45 mm, that's about 1/3 of the course you have when using the line faders.

You can say, well yeah, but when you use the xfader you only have to move one thing instead of two. Agreed, but keep in mind the increase/decrease volume ratio will always be the same (for example 10% increase of the new channel will always be 10% decrease on the outgoing channel). Sometimes you may want to decide for yourself what ratio you want to use.

If you consider all this, you can say overall the use of the line faders give you more control.

Old Post Aug-30-2002 09:37  Belgium
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mixtup
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Home/EU

shouldn't line faders be left in the middle (i.e as indicated on the mixer) so as not to distort the track?

Old Post Aug-30-2002 14:33  Europe
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b0bb0
Old skoo T/A



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Jacksonville, Florida

I use a combo of all, i slart to slide the cross fader to the middle while adjusting the volume then fade it out with the vol and gains..


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