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DjFerio
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: NL, Amsterdam
Trance bass & Compressing

Hi Everyone,

AS you all know most trance tracks have more than 1 layer of basses.

What is your setup to make them sit good together?

Example;

You have 3 basses (low/mid/high) and you may compress and EQ them individually (+ other FX), then send them to 1 compressor to compress them together, maybe with some eq etc and have this on a sidechain.

Shorter to say how do you usually work with basses? How do you compress them? What things are you watching carefully to glue them good together?

I'm curious how everyone here is working regarding to this subject.

Thanks!

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evo8
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never really compress basses, although sometimes will stick a limiter on them to keep them in control, but only with about 3db max gain reduction

Why 3 layers?? Surely 2 would be enough? The more layers the more mud


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wayfinder
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Berlin

I'm gonna start copying and pasting this to every one of these threads:


Whether or not you want to use EQ and compression on a sound depends on the specific sound. There is no one-fits-all recipe.


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djshire
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quote:
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Whether or not you want to use EQ and compression on a sound depends on the specific sound. There is no one-fits-all recipe.

Exactly. Every sound must be approached differently, there are no hard-and-fast rules like that for mixing and mastering.


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Anakratis
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I usually work with two layers of bass, if I'm creating a basic trance tune. You never really need as many as three. For trance more directed towards electro, I have multiple channels of bass playing in a sequence, but never more than two at a time.

The bass and kick work on close-to-similar frequencies, and the entire tune will clip if you don't sidechain. For the layers, use a spectral analyzer to see where the excess frequencies are and tame them. Using this method, you can also EQ the basses accordingly. Don't forget to sidechain


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MSZ
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Gotta throw on a multiband stereoimager and compressor, widen and compress the low mids. Just mud up the rest, and you have an up-to-date uplifting trance track.

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DJ RANN
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Gotta throw on a multiband stereoimager and compressor, widen and compress the low mids. Just mud up the rest, and you have an up-to-date uplifting trance track.


Lol, tru dat.

Oh, and fucking answer the question in the mixing contest thread

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elyhess
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do what sounds good to you! but dont let it get muddy as mentioned above


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wayfinder
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Gotta throw on a multiband stereoimager and compressor, widen and compress the low mids. Just mud up the rest, and you have an up-to-date uplifting trance track.


compress them with what end result in mind?


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itsamemario
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Registered: Jun 2001
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Compressing things individually is pretty pointless as there are other tools that are far better suited, like adsr envelopes, to alter the dynamics of a sound.

I've read about compression soooo many times, but I still don't feel like I "get them", so I rarely use them for anything besides glueing buses together, either with themselves or other buses. The trick is keeping it together, yet seperate. And if you squash everything from the get-go, you're gonna end up with a transientless, muddy shit-mix.


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Looney4Clooney
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compressor is faster than any envelope tool and can colour the sound in ways an envelope tool can't.


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Rodri Santos
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bass is one of the few things i compress... bass and leads or in other words what i want to stand out in the mix, never got complaints about my mixes in fact people usually remarked this, except the m4b contest track which btw was 2 years and a half ago and was my first experience with a saturation plugin :P i remember using it on every single bus lol.

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