Hey guys,

For the past few years my intention in music has grown to be around the concept of experiencing deeper internal musical states and translating those experiences through the DAW in order for others to feel and experience them. I experimented with the uses of the DAW over the years, however I always found myself not as in sync as I'd like to be with it, simply because the depth of use would extend nothing further than searching through an array of presets and samples and losing my creative intentions while aimlessly trying to scratch the surfaces of learning the functions of one VST or another. I've had fun with it, but after discovering the music that Fractal and certain other artists have produced, it showed me that an entirely different dimension of this expression is possible. As far as my intuition for translating the melodic, percussive and conceptual elements of these experiences goes, I feel very ready to explore that realm, however when it comes to the moment of directly translating sound, my process of learning to do so has been rather stagnant. I've seen that through the use of synth many artists have been able to breach the barriers of simply using samples or presets and really express a deeper personal meaning. My problem is that as I try to learn the functions of the various synths that are available for use, I'm finding that all I'm being taught through tutorials is what the various nobs do on some end-result level, but not adopting any fundamental understanding of the true function, mathematics or relationships in the language. All I really mean by this is that I've only had true intuitive control of anything in life when I've understood it on a fundamental level. I also feel that my ability to adopt deeper and more expansive or diverse understandings comes from this original fundamental understanding, which I'm simply not getting from the various tutorials I've browsed through.

I'm really interested in learning about the processes that many of you have undergone in order to gain the understandings you currently have, so that I can perhaps apply it to my own learning curve.

I look forward to hearing from you

Buy a book on synthesis?

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Originally posted by evo8 Buy a book on synthesis?

I definitely agree that sort of thing is the most logical approach to take, I suppose I just feel that a really intuitive way for me to learn in the past has been to work directly with people so that I could address questionable areas directly. I also feel like, from what I've gathered, that there are many artists who took very different routes than each other to learning synth and got to comparable end results. So it's these various routes that I'm trying to inquire about. Do you use synth in your art? What was your process of experimentation like?

lol

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 lol

What does it mean? You're such a useless idiot.

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Originally posted by future_newbie What does it mean? You're such a useless idiot.

Do I haven to explain myself for each post I make, God, the newbs on this forum.

If you have nothing to say at least keep your mouth shut.

Are you trying to learn synthesis, or sound design? IOW, are you struggling to figure out what the controls on a synth do and how to make one parameter modulate another, or are you struggling with putting these concepts into practice e.g., to make a sound that you can hear in your head?

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Originally posted by future_newbie If you have nothing to say at least keep your mouth shut.

Oh god, what, you think your a mod all of a sudden with rules under your belt? What i can't fucking laugh christ sakes, holy shit we gotta winner here. I could say what the hell I want you rotten no skilled piece of shit.

Render,

Everyone approaches the creative process differently at technical skill levels.

That said, here is what works for me while I am still largely in the learning phase of how synthesis works and can't yet translate my ideas fully into sounds from scratch.

Just making sounds with a synthesizer and playing around with them gives me ideas for songs that I didn't even know I wanted to make. Since you already start with a sound that you created, you can get that personal connection through your DAW / synths easier and into a song because you have your first starting point into the track. If it doesn't work or you can't do the track justice, just go back to learning your synths and making new sounds and repeat the process.

Not to kill this thread from me laughing but this is what i'm pointing out that had a little humor.

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Originally posted by Render Do you use synth in your art?

This question was little sketchy and mad have agiggle if thats a crime here shit man wtf.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Are you trying to learn synthesis, or sound design? IOW, are you struggling to figure out what the controls on a synth do and how to make one parameter modulate another, or are you struggling with putting these concepts into practice e.g., to make a sound that you can hear in your head?

I suppose on some level it may be a bit of both, given that from what I can imagine, it would take an understanding of how the controls work to in turn generate a sound I'm hearing internally, but mainly speaking I don't have much difficulty understanding what's being taught in a tutorial about the functions of a synth. When learning about oscillators, filters, envelopes, etc it all makes sense for me to apply, however I know that the sounds I'm hearing in my head would require a combination of many of these functions, and its that part that I'm not seeming to have an intuitive understanding of. It's the relationship between all of them to create a desired result that I'm not grasping as naturally as I feel I should. I know that further experimentation would help me to some degree, but I've experimented enough to feel as though I'm not making the kind of progress I could if I could directly work with people who already have this understanding.