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DaveT
NEED PERSONAL COPY-EDITOR
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco
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Mar-26-2019 00:24
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DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
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Bitch please, you're talking about "old school raving" in 2004?
My raving days started in 1995 in the UK and that shit was underground. I mean no sponsored floats, and often shut down by the fuzz, if they could find it.
In fairness and all seriousness though, 2004 was early rave/club scene for the USA, or at least the West Coast (special shout out to Doc Martin, Marques Wyatt, Hip E and Halo for keeping real in those early dance music years). Sure detroit, NY and Chicago were doing it since the 80's but that was a very niche scene compared to the USA as a whole.
I get what Billy's saying though; it was about counter culture and it being something different. People don't understand that rave culture grew out of and was a reaction to a previous conservative climate (80/90's) just like flower power in the late 1960's did after the very conservative 19050's.
Sadly, "rave culture" or at least club culture got so capitalized that it's a shadow of it's former self. In their haydays (i.e. 90's) top DJ's like Sasha or Danny Rampling or Sven Vath or Carl Cox used ot earn about £2k per set and that was considered a good income. These days, twats like Marshmallow probably have $2k in gummy bears on their riders.
I don't even look at or know what the mainstream dance music scene is now. It's a bunch of alcohol brands and mobile phone companies trying to be down with the kids, and actually has very little to do with the essence of dance music.
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Mar-26-2019 20:08
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bstorm
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2009
Location: Redondo Beach
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quote: | Originally posted by DJ RANN
Bitch please, you're talking about "old school raving" in 2004?
My raving days started in 1995 in the UK and that shit was underground. I mean no sponsored floats, and often shut down by the fuzz, if they could find it.
In fairness and all seriousness though, 2004 was early rave/club scene for the USA, or at least the West Coast (special shout out to Doc Martin, Marques Wyatt, Hip E and Halo for keeping real in those early dance music years). Sure detroit, NY and Chicago were doing it since the 80's but that was a very niche scene compared to the USA as a whole.
I get what Billy's saying though; it was about counter culture and it being something different. People don't understand that rave culture grew out of and was a reaction to a previous conservative climate (80/90's) just like flower power in the late 1960's did after the very conservative 19050's.
Sadly, "rave culture" or at least club culture got so capitalized that it's a shadow of it's former self. In their haydays (i.e. 90's) top DJ's like Sasha or Danny Rampling or Sven Vath or Carl Cox used ot earn about £2k per set and that was considered a good income. These days, twats like Marshmallow probably have $2k in gummy bears on their riders.
I don't even look at or know what the mainstream dance music scene is now. It's a bunch of alcohol brands and mobile phone companies trying to be down with the kids, and actually has very little to do with the essence of dance music. |
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