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PhaseFour
Big Bad Bald Asian Guy



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Sacramento and/or UC Davis, California
Fresh New Subject!

WEll, this might be a welcome break, although it probably only applies to the US

anyone can join in though!

what do u guys think about lowering the voting age to 16 (which happens to be my age?)

for non americans: at the moment, all american citizens can vote at 18 years of age. it was changed during the vietnam war from the age of 21 because there were 18 year olds in the war said "if we can fight, we can vote!"

so, go ahead, let ur opinions out...and if there if flaming on this thread omfg :/


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Nalin
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

Something is wrong when you can legally vote on the courses and entire country can take at the age of 16 and not drink alcohol for another 5 years till your 21 (this was the drinking age in US last time I checked).

I think voting should be left at 18. Heck most people don't even have a clue at 18, nevermind at 16.

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occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
Re: Fresh New Subject!

quote:
Originally posted by PhaseFour
WEll, this might be a welcome break, although it probably only applies to the US

anyone can join in though!

what do u guys think about lowering the voting age to 16 (which happens to be my age?)

for non americans: at the moment, all american citizens can vote at 18 years of age. it was changed during the vietnam war from the age of 21 because there were 18 year olds in the war said "if we can fight, we can vote!"

so, go ahead, let ur opinions out...and if there if flaming on this thread omfg :/


Big mistake. I don't think 16 year olds are mature enough to make those kinds of decisions. I don't even think they are mature enough to drive. The driving age should be raised to 18 and the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If you're old enough to live on your own and you've completed your schooling, you're old enough to do anything.

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malek
drinks your milkshake!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

isn't the enrollment age 17 in the US?

it makes me think about the same debate here in my province, what a joke man. Even 18 isn't old enough IMO.


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King_Mack
Professor of Pimpology



Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

PhaseFour, no offense to you..but I dont think people are mature enough at that age to vote. IMO, 18 is the prime age...cuz at that age most of us are educated about whats going on and the issues that are at hand. At that age, we actually start giving a shit out things we never did when we were younger


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occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
isn't the enrollment age 17 in the US?

it makes me think about the same debate here in my province, what a joke man. Even 18 isn't old enough IMO.


Nope it's 18 I believe. I kinda agree with the 18 thing. You should be allowed to do whatever you want whenever you move out of the house and live on your own. I think that at that point do you truly understand responsibility.

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DrUg_Tit0
e^(i*pi)+1=0



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

16 is way too early. Even 18 is sort of young. When I was 16, I did think 16 year olds should be given the right to vote, but as time passed by, I realized how immature I was at that point. I'd say when you're about 20, you start to realize how the world works. And some, like tiesto14, don't get it even when they're 26.

But, although most people become able to reason maturely at about 20, it isn't the same for all of them. My opinion on the voting is that every person who wants to vote should be obligated to take a general political knowledge test, and also a psychological profile test. If that person passes both tests, he/she should be allowed to vote regardless of age.


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Mental Exodus
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Can
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NOOOO WAY. NOt that it makes a difrence anyway. IM still sure that the last election was rigged when there was all that recounting ballot BS going on I couldnt belive that shit was hapening.


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mr. poopyhead
pho king guy...



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: mississauga, ontario

quote:
Originally posted by Nalin
Something is wrong when you can legally vote on the courses and entire country can take at the age of 16 and not drink alcohol for another 5 years till your 21 (this was the drinking age in US last time I checked).


hehehe, then this almost guarantees that the 16-20 year old voter will be sober at the polls, =P

anyways, i read some stats on voting in america... something like 200 million people of voting age, but only 150 million registered voters... AND in elections of 2000, only 100 million of those registered voters actually came out to vote. so only 3/4 of eligible voters in america even bothered to register, and then only 2/3 of those registered bothered to get up of their asses and vote. seems like only 1/2 of voting age citizens in america care enough about their country to choose its leadership and policies. that's pretty sad and i'm sure voters in canada are almost just as apathetic. anyways, the point is, lowering the voting age will do nothing except increase the percentage of unconcerned voters... i know when i first got to voting age, i was really tempted to vote for the marijuana party just for jokes... lowering voting age will invite dumbasses like me to throw away votes to extremist political factions.


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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

nah..lets keep it at 18 - the age of "adulthood". and while we're at it, might as well lower the drinkig age to 18 though.

>JM<

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Mental Exodus
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Can
Be Cool!

quote:
Originally posted by mr. poopyhead
seems like only 1/2 of voting age citizens in america care enough about their country to choose its leadership and policies. that's pretty sad and i'm sure voters in canada are almost just as pathetic.


U place blame on the voters. I place blame on the running partys. All of which offer nothing in the way of a reason to vote. And the whole procces of running for office is soooooo pathetic and insulting to voters with the amount of P.R. generated photo opps going on ever scince TV became popular. These things happen to make 1/2 of the poeple sick. Hence no votes. I am one of them and shall never vote.

unless of course we get a party who understands that everything comes down to money AND THAT RELIGION AND STATE ARE SEPERATE!!@! FFS!


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Last edited by Mental Exodus on Mar-25-2003 at 22:24

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mr. poopyhead
pho king guy...



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: mississauga, ontario

quote:
Originally posted by Mental Exodus
U place blame on the voters. I place blame on the running partys. All of which offer nothing in the way of a reason to vote. And the whole procces of running for office is soooooo pathetic and insulting to voters with the amount of P.R. generated photo opps going on ever scince TV became popular. These things happen to make 1/2 of the poeple sick. Hence no votes. I am one of them and shall never vote.

unless of course we get a party who understands that everything comes down to money AND THAT RELIGION AND STATE ARE SEPERATE!!@! FFS!


i love how you edited my quote, =P

what you say is true, a lot of the time, politicians may not have a platform that suits us. it may seem issues like east coast fisheries and BC logging has nothing to do with us (mostly students) but at the same time, many issues will arise later that require good leadership... even if a politician isn't tacking issues that affect us now, its important to vote for someone who will make the right choices later. i know the photo ops and the staged events are sickening, but every politician does it. i used to not give a shit about voting as well, but i'm not gonna pass up my next chance to choose our country's leader. i'm not saying you're wrong in abstaining from voting, or that i'm better than you or anything like that but remember, if you waive your right to vote, then you also waive your right to criticize the people in power later...


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