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beat-mixing queation
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| lesprock |
hey i got a set of sherwood belt drive decks and a synergy hybrid mixer a couple of weeks ago and i was wondering, when you are beat-mixing is there a certain way to find out which record you need to speed up or slow down?or do you just have to mess about with it til you get it right? would really appreciate any tips anyone has about mixing cause im a total beginner.
thanks. |
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| P4z! |
| try increasing the bass in the queued track |
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| big dave |
it just takes practice! youll get the hang of it eventually but dont expect great things straight away especially if your using belt drives ;)
keep at it! its worth it in the end :D |
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| Omegasox |
| I found myself asking the same question only a few months ago. Everyone said practice, practice, practice and I knew there had to be a straight answer aside from just practice. After a few months I found this isn't the case. You'll just develop an "ear" for it, it especially helps if you know your tracks, because you'll know right off the bat what kind of pitch you'll need. |
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| venomdx |
| You just need to know the tracks so you can differentiate between the basslines. |
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| Scottaculous |
| In practicing you learn to hear the off-beats from the solid on-beats. In the beginning, I really couldn't hear when a record is going off. Practice by really paying attention to how the records sound like mixed with a solid beat and then listen to the slight differences on how the beat sounds when it's a bit off. The beat sounds different when Track A is faster than B and vice versa. |
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| Tiger777 |
In the beginning, somebody told me this little trick:
Track A runs ahead of Track B: you hear:
Taboom taboom taboom
Track A and B run in good:
Boom Boom Boom
Track A is behind on track B:
BoomTA BoemTA BoemTA
I know, a stupid trick, but in the beginning, it helped me alot...
Btw, Belt driven TT's suck for beatmatching, they can't keep up the tempo. when you have a little money, buy direct driven TT's |
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| Blithe |
Mose people assume that kick-beats are all the same...
This, my friend isn't the case.
Like was said above, you'll develope an ear for which one is running faster. The bass drum on one song isn't always the same on the other... One might sound like a BOOM... and the other might sound more like a THUMP (To put it in explainable words) You'll develop that sense for it once you become more familiar with your tunes. I find it a bit more difficult to know which is faster or slower especially when I am mixing a new record.
Often times to tell which is moving faster or slower, trial + error is needed. If you think record A is moving faster than record B... Then try dragging the platter on record A... Did it get better? If so, slow the pitch down. If it got worse, speed it up.
Just remember, the record you have playing 'live' is generally not the one you want to be fiddling with, only the one you are trying to cue. |
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| GelatinPufF |
okay, well i know alot of people say they beatmatch using the kick drum, but thats not really the way i do it(i beatmatch using the hihats) .
the way i do is like this:
take for example we have track A playing, and we're ready to beatmatch track B.
What i do is kill the bass for track B and let it start playing over track A. now all you should be really focusing on and hearing for track B are the hi-hats (that chee! sound ie. boom! chee! boom! chee!). try and get that chee sound lined up with the bass on the first track (which is the hard bit, because this is where you have to beatmatch the two tracks, just take a roung guess at it though).
now the problem everyone has
| quote: | | is there a certain way to find out which record you need to speed up or slow down |
THe fact that the you're only listening out for that "chee!" sound on track B will mean that if track B is a little to fast
it will start going like this over the bass of track A
BOOM!----CHEE!----BOOM!-----CHEE!---BOOM!------CHEE!--BOOM!-------CHEE!-BOOM!
now the "chee!" sound is moving to fast, slow it down a little, get it line up again and see how much closer you are to getting the two beatmatched.....
NOW if track B is a little to slow, it will sound like this:
BOOM!----CHEE!----BOOM!---CHEE!-----BOOM!--CHEE!------BOOM!-CHEE!-------BOOM!
this time its too slow. speed it up a little and line it up again and see how you go.
this was probably no help at all, but oh well! good luck :stongue: |
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| DJ_Shockwav |
| quote: | Originally posted by GelatinPufF
okay, well i know alot of people say they beatmatch using the kick drum, but thats not really the way i do it(i beatmatch using the hihats) .
the way i do is like this:
take for example we have track A playing, and we're ready to beatmatch track B.
What i do is kill the bass for track B and let it start playing over track A. now all you should be really focusing on and hearing for track B are the hi-hats (that chee! sound ie. boom! chee! boom! chee!). try and get that chee sound lined up with the bass on the first track (which is the hard bit, because this is where you have to beatmatch the two tracks, just take a roung guess at it though).
now the problem everyone has
THe fact that the you're only listening out for that "chee!" sound on track B will mean that if track B is a little to fast
it will start going like this over the bass of track A
BOOM!----CHEE!----BOOM!-----CHEE!---BOOM!------CHEE!--BOOM!-------CHEE!-BOOM!
now the "chee!" sound is moving to fast, slow it down a little, get it line up again and see how much closer you are to getting the two beatmatched.....
NOW if track B is a little to slow, it will sound like this:
BOOM!----CHEE!----BOOM!---CHEE!-----BOOM!--CHEE!------BOOM!-CHEE!-------BOOM!
this time its too slow. speed it up a little and line it up again and see how you go.
this was probably no help at all, but oh well! good luck :stongue: |
i agree
mix listening to the high end
if you can hear eq changes in your headphones, turn the bass eq down
it's a lot tighter than the basslines and if they start to drift you'll notice faster
and above all, practice, practice, practice ;)
eventually one day it will just "click" |
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| DJ A.i |
| i think hes asking more of a basic question like... how do u know how much you have to put the pitch at? and stuff like taht... more technical question. |
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| Tiger777 |
| hard to explain, you feel it, you move it down milimeter by milimeter till you feel its right |
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