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| DigiNut |
One of the battles I'm finding interesting is the one with Phillips (co-inventor of the Red Book standard). While companies come out with st00pid protection mechanisms like SafeAudio and Cactus that are supposed to make CDs unreadable by computers, Phillips says that it won't let companies use the CD logo on protected discs or even call them CDs, because they deviate from the standard. And I don't think they're going to get away with doing it on "Super CD" either, because that falls within the licensing agreement of the CD standard.
Kind of interesting to me. I say, good for them, CD is their trademark and they need to protect it. I don't like the thought of companies deliberately putting bad data on CDs and reducing the quality just to make it slightly more difficult for people to copy. Would you take a stilleto and scratch your initials onto a CD just so people who borrow it will know it's yours? I didn't think so.
Although I admit I download enormous amounts of MP3s, I've got nothing against the idea of strong copy protection - my only problem is when it interferes with fair use of the product, à la Microsoft.
Anyway, I'll shut up now. :) |
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| Fr33mUsic |
Darwin said it best:
EVOLVE OR BECOME EXTINCT
Those are your only choices. The record industry as we know it today has become obsolete. Their business model is flawed as a large part of that model was focused on physical distribution of music. That "value added service", as the years progress, will no longer be needed, as music will be distributed digitally over the phone and cable lines direct from production to end customer.
Don't go around complaining and suing people just because you failed to see the future of the industry and misjudged the significance of digitized music. The record labels knew, long before anyone else, about mp3's, yet they dismissed it as a niche phenomena utilized by the most uber of computer geeks. They were wrong, and now they are paying for it. I'm sure a lot of "real people" suffered when cassettes replaced albums as the standard music-recording format, then again when cassettes were replaced by CD's. Now store bought CD's are being replaced by mp3's. Just as workers in the previous industries had to evolve and contribute to the economy in some new fashion, so shall these record label workers. They should be glad they're not candle makers around the time Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. I'm sure all the big candle-makers got together and lobbied the lawmakers to
shut down Thomas' invention from proliferation, but guess what? It was
better for mankind to advance with electricity than to remain in the dark, wax-lit, ages.
Consumers are SICK of paying $18.99 for a CD that contains only 2 hits while the rest are just filler tracks. Where's the ethics in that? Record labels have (legally) stolen from the consumer for years, and now they are getting their panties all up in a knot because some of us are taking it back. them. I hope hackers all over the world unite and proliferate piracy until the record labels all file Chapter 11. Maybe then they can re-educate and re-train themselves in a profession that actually BENEFITS society, instead of being the greed-driven blood sucking leaches that they were.
The only way to stop people from downloading free music is to develop
Counter-ripping technology to prevent all illegal copying of music.
Offering people a paying alternative, from $18.99 down to $9.99 per album, will do diddly squat. "Oh, you were raping me 2 times a day, but now you only want to rape me once a day... um OK!!" How bout I not let you rape me at all?
Music will never die, but the way music are distributed must change. Artists must realize and take risk of singling out record labels and distribute their works directly through the consumers. Sadly, I don’t see it happening anytime soon with stupid musicians like Madonna, Dr Dre, and many more. Oh well!
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| zarathustra |
| Kazaa has chat? |
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| itikia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fr33mUsic
Darwin said it best:
EVOLVE OR BECOME EXTINCT
Those are your only choices. The record industry as we know it today has become obsolete. Their business model is flawed as a large part of that model was focused on physical distribution of music. That "value added service", as the years progress, will no longer be needed, as music will be distributed digitally over the phone and cable lines direct from production to end customer.
Don't go around complaining and suing people just because you failed to see the future of the industry and misjudged the significance of digitized music. The record labels knew, long before anyone else, about mp3's, yet they dismissed it as a niche phenomena utilized by the most uber of computer geeks. They were wrong, and now they are paying for it. I'm sure a lot of "real people" suffered when cassettes replaced albums as the standard music-recording format, then again when cassettes were replaced by CD's. Now store bought CD's are being replaced by mp3's. Just as workers in the previous industries had to evolve and contribute to the economy in some new fashion, so shall these record label workers. They should be glad they're not candle makers around the time Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. I'm sure all the big candle-makers got together and lobbied the lawmakers to
shut down Thomas' invention from proliferation, but guess what? It was
better for mankind to advance with electricity than to remain in the dark, wax-lit, ages.
Consumers are SICK of paying $18.99 for a CD that contains only 2 hits while the rest are just filler tracks. Where's the ethics in that? Record labels have (legally) stolen from the consumer for years, and now they are getting their panties all up in a knot because some of us are taking it back. them. I hope hackers all over the world unite and proliferate piracy until the record labels all file Chapter 11. Maybe then they can re-educate and re-train themselves in a profession that actually BENEFITS society, instead of being the greed-driven blood sucking leaches that they were.
The only way to stop people from downloading free music is to develop
Counter-ripping technology to prevent all illegal copying of music.
Offering people a paying alternative, from $18.99 down to $9.99 per album, will do diddly squat. "Oh, you were raping me 2 times a day, but now you only want to rape me once a day... um OK!!" How bout I not let you rape me at all?
Music will never die, but the way music are distributed must change. Artists must realize and take risk of singling out record labels and distribute their works directly through the consumers. Sadly, I don’t see it happening anytime soon with stupid musicians like Madonna, Dr Dre, and many more. Oh well!
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That's exactly what I was trying to say!! Great post.
itikia |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by zarathustra
Kazaa has chat? |
best post in the thread!
haha, anyways, in big bold letters:
THE RIAA
had to get that out. who are the majority of artists doing
this crusade against MP3s? the sucky ones, that know that
now that their teeny bopper fans can get them on the net,
no one will bother with check out the hottest new madonna
album. get over it. you will never defeat us. unless the
world becomes 'Big Brother-ish' and everyone is monitored,
and even then, it will be tough for them. hell, the hacker
that made DevCSS (the first DVD decoder) did it with only
7 lines of code. they will always be 2 steps ahead of the
recording companies:
a) they dont loose money on it
b) they dont have deadlines
if its made, it can be copied. so as already said,
EVOLVE or go EXTINCT |
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| Blake613 |
RIAA
Recording Industry Association of America. What are they going to do about a server in Sweeden or Brazil? |
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| mos man |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fr33mUsic
Darwin said it best:
EVOLVE OR BECOME EXTINCT
Those are your only choices. The record industry as we know it today has become obsolete. Their business model is flawed as a large part of that model was focused on physical distribution of music. That "value added service", as the years progress, will no longer be needed, as music will be distributed digitally over the phone and cable lines direct from production to end customer.
Don't go around complaining and suing people just because you failed to see the future of the industry and misjudged the significance of digitized music. The record labels knew, long before anyone else, about mp3's, yet they dismissed it as a niche phenomena utilized by the most uber of computer geeks. They were wrong, and now they are paying for it. I'm sure a lot of "real people" suffered when cassettes replaced albums as the standard music-recording format, then again when cassettes were replaced by CD's. Now store bought CD's are being replaced by mp3's. Just as workers in the previous industries had to evolve and contribute to the economy in some new fashion, so shall these record label workers. They should be glad they're not candle makers around the time Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. I'm sure all the big candle-makers got together and lobbied the lawmakers to
shut down Thomas' invention from proliferation, but guess what? It was
better for mankind to advance with electricity than to remain in the dark, wax-lit, ages.
Consumers are SICK of paying $18.99 for a CD that contains only 2 hits while the rest are just filler tracks. Where's the ethics in that? Record labels have (legally) stolen from the consumer for years, and now they are getting their panties all up in a knot because some of us are taking it back. them. I hope hackers all over the world unite and proliferate piracy until the record labels all file Chapter 11. Maybe then they can re-educate and re-train themselves in a profession that actually BENEFITS society, instead of being the greed-driven blood sucking leaches that they were.
The only way to stop people from downloading free music is to develop
Counter-ripping technology to prevent all illegal copying of music.
Offering people a paying alternative, from $18.99 down to $9.99 per album, will do diddly squat. "Oh, you were raping me 2 times a day, but now you only want to rape me once a day... um OK!!" How bout I not let you rape me at all?
Music will never die, but the way music are distributed must change. Artists must realize and take risk of singling out record labels and distribute their works directly through the consumers. Sadly, I don’t see it happening anytime soon with stupid musicians like Madonna, Dr Dre, and many more. Oh well!
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dont be such a narrowminded ****end.. other people like their music too, it doesn't mean they are stupid and as for the Dr.Dre statement i suggest you go and learn your ass what NWA is :whip: |
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| DJ RozzeR |
| RIAA Suck ass, its to late now to do anything , i don't think a little pop up window is going to make me wipe my 40gb hard drive of albums is it, i wish someone will haxor there site again that was a sweet hac. |
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| Pheobius |
lolololololol
bring it on
i'd rather have communism with free distribution of music and true appreciation of it rather than a bunch of money grabbing suits |
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| Dumonde Trancer |
| haha, the good thing is with them scanning things, theyre only scanning for "popular music" so only people who download cheesy will be notified by their isp anyway |
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| Dumonde Trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by mos man
dont be such a narrowminded ****end.. other people like their music too, it doesn't mean they are stupid and as for the Dr.Dre statement i suggest you go and learn your ass what NWA is :whip: |
erm dr dre is one of the main people trying to bring down mp3s and file sharing.
so he is a in tool |
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| ShadySlim |
I am against free distribution of MP3s myself. (Well, not exactly free distribution, but the fact that whatever actions that y'all support would force Internet-only music distribution, thus leaving everybody without Internet access with nothing.) That's not because I am a supporter of the RIAA per se (I oppose some of their actions to prevent file-sharing), but I have lots of friends who will NEVER have any Internet access at all whatsoever - FOREVER. And Internet-access monthly service has gotten much more expensive in my area within the past few months: I'm now paying the equivalent of more than $200 per month from all of the broadband ISPs in my area - and the only way to pay any less $$$ is to go back to dial-up (no wonder why most of those ISPs themselves have filed for Chapter 11, because nobody wants to pay those rates). So those people will have no choice but to pay the full $19.99 per CD or thereabouts (the only possible alternative is to physically give pirated CDs to those people - but in my town, such activity is a felony and is vigorously enforced.) The dissolution of the RIAA would, in my judgment, leave everybody who don't have any Internet access out in the cold!
And yeah, I do agree that most of today's pop music is crap. But artists themselves can themselves distribute crappy music that nobody wants to hear freely over the Internet, too. So the elimination of the RIAA is no guarantee that we won't be forced to listen to that craptacular candy-@$$ foul caterwauling pop-tart trash music - but instead, it would rob us of all the classic music recordings that are beloved. |
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