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Mixing In Headphones Good/Bad ? (pg. 2)
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| Tiger777 |
| Actually, I find it easier... |
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| JohnSmith |
totally man, i can't understand how that is even possible. I can get the speed right, but i can't get em matched at all. I tried it last night, just for kicks. I had them going the same speed, and it sounded tight to me, just the cued track in the headphones on one ear.
but then i put on both ears, and put both tracks on cue, and the incoming track was like half a beat behind the live! they were the same speed, but way off alignment. my ear can't compensate for the difference in time from the speakers to my ear i guess, even though my speakers are only about 6 feet away.
hmm..
does the math:
sound travels 1,087 feet per second.
it takes 0.00552 seconds for sound to travel 6 feet to my ears.
a standard 140BPM track has about beat every 0.43 seconds
it seemed to me to be off half a beat, so 0.215 off, but it really should only have been 0.00552 off.
so, end result. my ears are ed! |
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| -CosmicFire- |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tiger777
Actually, I find it easier... |
yeah me 2 it sounds eaiser... |
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| DJ Chrono |
| I beatmatch the tracks and align them all in my headphones. I also do any initial eqing that may be required (ie kill trebel on incoming track B) I then throw off my headphones and preform the mix according to what's coming out of the speakers.. I also can hear more acurately what needs eqing and so forth. |
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| shawnb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Haunted
i have no idea how to mix with one ear listening to monitor and one ear listening to headphone :/
how do you guys match it? its so much easier with headphones cuz the beats are all there. but you had one beat on your left and one on your right. no idea how you guys do it |
the way i do it is:
i set a loop on my a song or i pause it, then i get the b song set and when its time to mix u press play. get it? |
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| Blithe |
| quote: | Originally posted by shawnb
the way i do it is:
i set a loop on my a song or i pause it, then i get the b song set and when its time to mix u press play. get it? |
I think we have a genius. |
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| CarlosM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Blithe
I think we have a genius. |
I guess he is Talking about CD Decks |
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| CarlosM |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
totally man, i can't understand how that is even possible. I can get the speed right, but i can't get em matched at all. I tried it last night, just for kicks. I had them going the same speed, and it sounded tight to me, just the cued track in the headphones on one ear.
but then i put on both ears, and put both tracks on cue, and the incoming track was like half a beat behind the live! they were the same speed, but way off alignment. my ear can't compensate for the difference in time from the speakers to my ear i guess, even though my speakers are only about 6 feet away.
hmm..
does the math:
sound travels 1,087 feet per second.
it takes 0.00552 seconds for sound to travel 6 feet to my ears.
a standard 140BPM track has about beat every 0.43 seconds
it seemed to me to be off half a beat, so 0.215 off, but it really should only have been 0.00552 off.
so, end result. my ears are ed! |
I have the same Problem :whip: |
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| Ghostface |
and I have exactly the same problem as well.
I started playing round with mp3 djing so when i got decks i was comfortable with headphone mixing already.
At home, on a DJM 300 the cueing options are deck 1, deck 2, master, deck 1 in left master in right, deck 2 in left master in right or deck 1 and 2 together.
I cue up deck b, then put deck a in the HP, let go deck b go and match them. I play both channels in both ears not one in each.
When i'm about to start the mix, I do the same thing and beofre i move the faders to send the mix to air I take off the phones and do it completely over the system.
Like many of you guys, if I use one phone off one phone on, even at home when speaker position is optimal the beats are still half a beat off. I guess simply becuase when one channel comes straight from the mixer, the other goes from the mixer to the amp to the speakers, so despite it being quick, it's still slower than the channel going straight to the headphones.
You could do it and then just adjust it when the mix comes in. Also you'd learn how much to slow the headphone channel down over time so the delay is compensated.
phew. glad i got that out ;) |
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| Flash Bastard |
I use the phone to beat match the songs then check my cue point when i got it al running then i remove the phone's and set in de volume .. because i wanna hear it from the speaker because that's what the crowed is hearing when that is running i set phone back on listen to whats to come so i can better fade track A out of the picture ... kwel topic see alot of intersting things arround :D
i thinks it become's a sort of STYE of your own |
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| venomdx |
I usually have my headphones covering one ear, and in that ear I can hear the cue'd track and the live track but at a lower volume (since my mixer has cue pan). So eg cue @ 100% volume and live @ 30% volume.
And in the other ear I can just hear the master feed. I find this works well for me. |
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| shawnb |
| quote: | Originally posted by CarlosM
I guess he is Talking about CD Decks |
yes i am. i hope u know wat a loop is, lol. no offence. |
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