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Best cheapest turntables (pg. 2)
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| gibbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Tranz
Amen to that!!! ty, cheap t-tables are used for home audio playing records 1 record at a time. Good turntables like Technics or Numarks TTX1 are used for DJing, mixing, scratching, turntabalism, recording, etc.. Catch our drift.
And just to Clarify, and Mister_Michel please correct me if I am wrong,
that is, technics themselves aren't cheap, every thread with same question gets TAs to respond the same way, don't buy the ty cheappies, get the Technics. :D :D :D |
thanks for backing me up on that because people seem not to get the message that we're not trying to say get technics for cheap we're saying don't waste ur time with cheap turntables coz u'll end up costing yourself more money in the long run by upgrading. At the end of the day technics are still the industry standard so if u want to play out anywhere in future it is probable that u will have to learn how to use them at some point. |
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| ChavezHype |
| quote: | Originally posted by gibbo
thanks for backing me up on that because people seem not to get the message that we're not trying to say get technics for cheap we're saying don't waste ur time with cheap turntables coz u'll end up costing yourself more money in the long run by upgrading. At the end of the day technics are still the industry standard so if u want to play out anywhere in future it is probable that u will have to learn how to use them at some point. |
its tru
for the time being if you're going to play in a club you have to get aquainted with a tech 12. However once you do, how many more times do you have to? Whatever
Just get a good quality TT. If Tranz' prices are too high (PM him for price quotes), then look on ebay for used good quality TTs. |
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| Dj Flesch |
The reason I don't like threads like these is not because the responce is always the same, it's not because it's a stupid question because there is no awesome TT for cheap, and it's not even because no one can use the search button. The thing that I hate about these threads is that they never provide those who wish to respond with any useful information.
You say that you want the best cheapest turntables. Well, nowhere in your post do you ever give us a budget. Cheap for me is under $1000. Cheap for others that are still in high school is under $400. I have no clue what cheap for you means. And this goes for all the people who ask information from the people in this forum--BE SPECIFIC. If you want a TT, and you are looking to stay in a certain price range, then fine, there isn't really much else you have to give other than the price range--but at least do that much! If you are looking for a mixer, then how many things do you want to attach to it, how upgradeable do you want it to be, how much do you have to spend and what equipment do you have now. Etc. Etc. Etc.
So even after this thread has been here for several days or so, not once did the original poster come back to provide any more personal info on the many replies. Bunk!
JohnSmith,
I've seen your reply to this type of thread several times, and while I agree to the point that you should get quality equipment right off the bat, the reality is that is not what this person asked for and probably because he can't afford it. Once/If we get a budget from DjFable here, then let us direct him to a decent pair of tables in that price. Belt driven ones do suck, but hey, obviously there is a market for them or companies wouldn't sell them--and if that is absolutely the only thing that he can afford, then well...
Another point is that not everyone that wants to dj wants to dj for the same reasons that I do/most of those here do. I do it because I am addicted to trance. My fiance is quickly starting to hate it because that is all I ever listen to. I can listen to good tracks endlessly and love trance more in the end. I want to share those tracks that I find that wow me and share them with others, hence the progression from raver/dancer to Dj.
Some people want to dj to be popular, others to get chicks, others to make some spare cash and so on. My point is that if your not looking to do it for the long term, or aren't sure that you want to do it for the long term, and for those who don't want to spend 6 months or more saving for a decent set of tables, top-of-the-line tables are not, in fact, the way to go. Don't get me wrong, I would never suggest that someone get a belt-drive to dj, but then again, if they did research (ie search button :haha:), they would know that themselves. There are some middle and low-end tables that are a good choice for beginers. If they decide to keep with it, then they can save for 6 more months etc and still have equipment to play with in the meantime. Sure it may be "wasting" money, but that is like saying, don't bother getting a home that you can afford. Just save until you can afford to buy the million dollar house that you really want.
In this same analogy, you can build equity in your earlier homes so that you can later on figure out WHY you want that million dollar home, and so that you will appreciate the value in it when you get it. You build equity in your dj equipment too. I'm not reffering to monetary equity--people expect used equipment, not matter what brand, to be discounted unless there is a supply problem. The equity I am reffering to is the knowledge of what goes into making a good dj system good. If you started out with the best, then how would you know that mixers that don't have individual channel volume LEDs make it much harder to dj with and volume match. If you started out with the best, then how would you know that a table with x g/cm of torque isn't enough--unless you have used it before.
Would it make sense to buy crappy tables after you get all of your top-of-the-line equipment? No. So on your way up there, use as much equipment as you can afford to get experienced and know what you really want in your next mixer, TT, CD deck, heaphones, cartrige, etc. And as always, unless you are going with something increadible wide-spread, like a technics table or pretty much anything from Pioneer, then make sure that you test it out to feel if it is quality enough to spend your money on. |
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| djshawnb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Flesch
Another point is that not everyone that wants to dj wants to dj for the same reasons that I do/most of those here do. I do it because I am addicted to trance. My fiance is quickly starting to hate it because that is all I ever listen to. I can listen to good tracks endlessly and love trance more in the end. I want to share those tracks that I find that wow me and share them with others, hence the progression from raver/dancer to Dj.
Some people want to dj to be popular, others to get chicks, others to make some spare cash and so on. My point is that if your not looking to do it for the long term, or aren't sure that you want to do it for the long term, and for those who don't want to spend 6 months or more saving for a decent set of tables, top-of-the-line tables are not, in fact, the way to go. Don't get me wrong, I would never suggest that someone get a belt-drive to dj, but then again, if they did research (ie search button :haha:), they would know that themselves. There are some middle and low-end tables that are a good choice for beginers. If they decide to keep with it, then they can save for 6 more months etc and still have equipment to play with in the meantime. Sure it may be "wasting" money, but that is like saying, don't bother getting a home that you can afford. Just save until you can afford to buy the million dollar house that you really want. |
i wanted to be popular, but i dont think ill make it, if i do lucky me then i guess. |
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| JohnSmith |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Flesch
JohnSmith,
I've seen your reply to this type of thread several times, and while I agree to the point that you should get quality equipment right off the bat, the reality is that is not what this person asked for and probably because he can't afford it. Once/If we get a budget from DjFable here, then let us direct him to a decent pair of tables in that price. Belt driven ones do suck, but hey, obviously there is a market for them or companies wouldn't sell them--and if that is absolutely the only thing that he can afford, then well...
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well, not sure if the whole thing was directed at me, or just this paragraph but i will answer to it.
i think i have structured my "whytogettechs.txt" file quite nicely. I lay out the reasons that getting technics, while expensive, actually ends up more economical in the end.
the simple fact of the matter is, if you can't afford to get technics, then that's all the more reason to keep saving them. because if you don't you'll end up losing your money either way.
i also point out that there are other options besides technics, but to NEVER get belt drive tables for DJing with. Yes, there is a market out there, it's for SUCKERS who fall for marketing hype. And i like to try to educate people so they won't be suckers.
The way i look at it, if you don't have $400 each to drop on turntables then you can't afford to be DJing. keep saving, practice on your computer, use your buddies decks, whatever, just don't blow what little resources you have on decks that are gonna either get sold when you outgrow them cuz they suck, or when you outgrow them cuz you hate DJing. either way, your losing your money.
but anyway, just my opinion, and i want to say, i respect your posts, and they way you put things flesch. I DJ for the same reasons as you, and my girlfriend likes the trance even more now! |
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| DJ Monotone |
| The Stanton ST-100's are actually prety nice. That's what I have. I tried them next to some Tec 12's and they have just as much torque, and they have more features. If you're on a budget and dont ever plan on spending a lot for 1200's, i recomend the ST-100's. The ST-100's have an "S" shaped tone arm like the 1200's, or you can get the Stanton STR8-100's which have a straight tone arm. |
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| Tranquil010 |
| Yo Man., technics all the way.. |
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| Dj Flesch |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
well, not sure if the whole thing was directed at me, or just this paragraph but i will answer to it.
i think i have structured my "whytogettechs.txt" file quite nicely. I lay out the reasons that getting technics, while expensive, actually ends up more economical in the end.
the simple fact of the matter is, if you can't afford to get technics, then that's all the more reason to keep saving them. because if you don't you'll end up losing your money either way.
i also point out that there are other options besides technics, but to NEVER get belt drive tables for DJing with. Yes, there is a market out there, it's for SUCKERS who fall for marketing hype. And i like to try to educate people so they won't be suckers.
The way i look at it, if you don't have $400 each to drop on turntables then you can't afford to be DJing. keep saving, practice on your computer, use your buddies decks, whatever, just don't blow what little resources you have on decks that are gonna either get sold when you outgrow them cuz they suck, or when you outgrow them cuz you hate DJing. either way, your losing your money.
but anyway, just my opinion, and i want to say, i respect your posts, and they way you put things flesch. I DJ for the same reasons as you, and my girlfriend likes the trance even more now! |
John, I only directed part of that post at you because you have the most sound arguement out of any of the posts on why to buy the best from the get go. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you (and didn't mean to offend), but then again, I also don't have a problem saving for this stuff and buying crap loads of music too :stongue:
My whole point though, is that if you can arrive to the decision that you don't want to be a dj quicker and cheaper, then for those who really aren't sure if they will like it, I think that is a more practical way to go about it. Well, actually, I think that going the vinyl route isn't practical unless you are pretty sure that you want to stick with it. Of course you can see where this is leading...the cost of music.
Buying vinyl will fairly quickly outpace the cost of your equipment. I currently have 97 vinyls and at the average cost of $12 each, I've spend $1164 on vinyl--all in about a year's or less time. Compare this to the $1850 or so that I spent on my setup, at the time (depreciation has brought the current price down to about $1600) and the vinyl collection that I've got will very soon outprice the equipment that I have.
I do agree with your statement, if you can't afford good equipment, then you can't afford to dj, as long as you are refering to vinyl djs. CD Djs can buy cds that contain a LOT of unmixed tracks. Even with trance, the ZYX label has a ton of unmixed compilations, several of which I own. There are even a number of tracks on there that are pretty decent. Also, most clubs have their own collection of cds from which the resident djs construct their sets. And if you don't need tracks that are "unmixed", then you can use any cd that you have, mixed or unmixed if you use the "cut" style of mixing that most non-4/4 pop requires that you do.
Anyway, my whole point was that there are some situations which do require advice other than "buy techs, the rUlE mAn!!" (not intended at your arguement ;)). He asked for advise, you did a good job of giving him ADVISE, I ment most of the post towards those who state no advise at all and just say "Yo Man., technics all the way..."
How does that help to inform him WHY he should by techs? |
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| JohnSmith |
i agree, i get annoyed at noobs saying "yo techs all the way" too, which is why i wrote my whytogettechs.txt file.
as for cost of music, i agree on that too. but, i think a lot of CDJs are simply stealing their music too. |
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| Project T |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
i think a lot of CDJs are simply stealing their music too. |
they do, tho generally less than mp3 djs |
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| djshawnb |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
i agree, i get annoyed at noobs saying "yo techs all the way" too, which is why i wrote my whytogettechs.txt file.
as for cost of music, i agree on that too. but, i think a lot of CDJs are simply stealing their music too. |
i dont, i buy mine. i have some mp3's, but most of my cd's ive brought them. |
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| Mister_Michel |
| quote: | Originally posted by JohnSmith
i think a lot of CDJs are simply stealing their music too. |
That's a pretty generalized, non-fact based comment. I buy a lot of cd's, sure i've got some mp3's on cd, but I will never play them outside my room (I play vinyl too by the way) |
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