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Odds for the survival of the human race 50-50 (pg. 2)
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| Project T |
| quote: | Originally posted by gibbo
I still believe even in the times of the dark ages and through things like the plague the threat of an instant ending to the world wasn't a possibility like it is now that is my point yes times may have been bad then but i think the threat of an instant ending to the world however unlikely is a lot more possible now than it was then. |
fair point, but the world is dominated by countries strong enough too see the consequences. ffs even russia put down korea lol! |
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| Project T |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Don't agree that are chances for survival are so slim? I dunno ... it came pretty close to the wire during the cold war. What if something bad had happened at the wrong place at the wrong time? We could have quite easily been plunged into nuclear holocaust.
I also think that it's quite possible for new deadly diseases to arise quite naturally. The more popluation overcrowding there is and the more likely humans will live in unsanitary conditions which is an incubator for disease development.
Not to mention all those statistics about asteroids that are due to hit the earth eventually. |
p1. that's exactly what im saying, if we got through that...
p2. yea, sars etc. but healthcare + knowledge is improving planet-wide, unless u live in zimbabwe where you are probably told to spread aids for good luck with mugabe tehre
p3. that's a timeless fact, more worrying is the giant underground volcano under yellowstone park + if that erupted at once it would wipe out most of north america |
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| gibbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Project T
fair point, but the world is dominated by countries strong enough too see the consequences. ffs even russia put down korea lol! |
Yes hopefully the countries in control of such weapons will know the consequences but its more the terrorists getting hold of chemical and nuclear weapons i'd be worried about as they have no sense at all |
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| Project T |
| quote: | Originally posted by gibbo
Yes hopefully the countries in control of such weapons will know the consequences but its more the terrorists getting hold of chemical and nuclear weapons i'd be worried about as they have no sense at all |
indeed |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Thanks alot for that rider... it cleared some stuff up.... but i still do not understand how this virus appeared so suddenly.... im sure that man and monkey had contacts with each other before 1980.... how come the virus didnt show up say 500 years ago?
Why now? Thats what strikes me..... |
Hmmm I don't know for certain but I suppose I can hazard a guess. My guess is that with increasing human encroachment on rainforests and other habitats of the wild we experience greater exposure to diseases such as this from animals. It's likely that AIDS was spread prior to its first discovery in the 80's ... it's just that we didn't have the technology to diagnose it or knew what it was in the past. Keep in mind that there are other naturally occurring diseases that are just now being "discovered" in African wilds in the 20th century, diseases such as ebola and countless others I'm sure. Another factor in its spread could be global travel ... with the advent of the airplane I think that the chances for something like this to be spread around the world increased significantly.
Anyway here's an article that kind of looks at the origins of the disease. One of the thing it states was that the disease was probably present in African society pre 1960. It only exploded relatively recentely.
http://www.aegis.com/news/dmn/1999/dn990203.html |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Thanks alot for that rider... it cleared some stuff up.... but i still do not understand how this virus appeared so suddenly.... im sure that man and monkey had contacts with each other before 1980.... how come the virus didnt show up say 500 years ago?
Why now? Thats what strikes me..... |
It's quite possible that it was around 500 years ago but lacked the transmission chain to hit a full blown outbreak. That's the way these viruses work--relatively isolated until it gets out of the general host population and a few unexpected cases occur, and then BANG, full blown outbreak as more transient victims come in contact with the host. |
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| Nadi |
| Will the human race destroy itself? Probably not, the vast majority in the world is smart enough to know that if it launches a non conventional weapon at another country, there going to get recked. I think its called the mutually assured destruction principle. Some sort of new virus is a possibility. But realisticly I dont see anything happening until the earth runs out of resources, or the sun implodes in 50 billion years or whatever. |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nadi
Will the human race destroy itself? Probably not, the vast majority in the world is smart enough to know that if it launches a non conventional weapon at another country, there going to get recked. I think its called the mutually assured destruction principle. |
That is the pre-9/11 reality.
That is Cold War mentality.
You forget that the new threat of global terrorism is operating beyond any rule and law. It's diffuse, invisible and ready to sacrifice it's onwn life. Can't get any riskier than that. |
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| gibbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
That is the pre-9/11 reality.
That is Cold War mentality.
You forget that the new threat of global terrorism is operating beyond any rule and law. It's diffuse, invisible and ready to sacrifice it's onwn life. Can't get any riskier than that. |
Yes exactly what i said earlier goverments won't bring the world down its the terrorists u have to worry about they are the ones that will do anything no matter what the cost |
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| Project T |
| quote: | Originally posted by gibbo
Yes exactly what i said earlier goverments won't bring the world down its the terrorists u have to worry about they are the ones that will do anything no matter what the cost |
well, i dunno, previous iraq regime + zimbabwe now...
treason if you run an election campaign against mugabe, hmm |
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| gibbo |
| quote: | Originally posted by Project T
well, i dunno, previous iraq regime + zimbabwe now...
treason if you run an election campaign against mugabe, hmm |
well iraqi goverment has been removed now to be restructured and i can't think zimbabwe have nuclear weapons maybe i'm wrong about this i don't know |
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| fuct4less |
| although it seems very likely that all these things will happen, i believe that we as a race will experience a different form of extermination. because of my christian faith i believe that well all be killed off by the anti-christ (not that cheap little "satan" that you see in end of days, but rather by means of a charismatic polititian that rises to power, forms an alliance of nations, and so on. something like what bush is doing). it must sound really funny to all of you, but it makes sense to me (call me an idiot or whatever, but its just what i think will happen) |
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