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Yet another bus blast in Jerusalem
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| Shakka |
| Alright, this is well beyond rediculous. At some point should there be a joint roundup of members of Hamas and simply kick them out of the country?? I will not take sides here, but it seems obvious to me that the main obstacle to peace over there is nothing more than a rogue terrorist group that obviously doesn't want peace. |
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| Galapidate |
| Like I posted a couple days ago, I think anti-terrorist Palestinians and Israeli forces should kick the crap out of Hamas. |
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| Eugene |
| at least 9 people killed on that bus. according to latest estimates |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Galapidate
Like I posted a couple days ago, I think anti-terrorist Palestinians and Israeli forces should kick the crap out of Hamas. |
Hmmm this happened so soon after the Israeli counter-attacks that it makes you think this operation was set up even before the Israelis tried to kill that senior hamas leader. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Hmmm this happened so soon after the Israeli counter-attacks that it makes you think this operation was set up even before the Israelis tried to kill that senior hamas leader. |
Good point. Latest I heard on this new attack was 30 casualties, but of course these numbers are always subject to revisions. |
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| JM |
shiiiet! i read this morning and i was aggravated....
ing militant radical busters. Fcuk, i'm all for these guys to get along and live side-by-side...but just dont see how if this persists.
>JM< |
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| Izzy |
AP reports 16 dead and nearly 70 wounded
i must say im in a really bad mood now so sorry if i go off ranting here.
i cant see how anyone in their right mind can equate and compare israel's policy of targeting hamas officials who incite hate, brainwash others to kill and who have basicly declared war agianst israel with acts such as these. i mean what lower form of human entity walks onto a bus and blows himself up to kill as many civilians as possible, no matter what race, creed, sex, religion, ethnicity or age they may be. time and time agian israel has shown it is willing to acheive peace from sadat & begin, hussien & rabin, arafat & rabin, peres, barak. i belive all people desire peace and security. israel doesnt want to live in a state of terror like this. the obsticle i see is fantisism and terror. something needs to be done. diplomacy has never worked agiasnt terror, examples being chechnya, afghanistan, iraq... someone needs to just destroy the complete infrustructure of terror and wipe out any reminance of islamic jihad, hizbollah and hamas - they do the world no good exsisting. the new palestinian authority must prove to the world they are responsible enough to have thier own country and help rid themselves of such evils. something must be done, seeing as terror is the root of the problem i hope that abbas and sharon can stand together and actively and physically destroy the breeding grounds of such acts....
sorry for the mindless rant |
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| TranceGiant |
| Terrorism is like rain: it appears regularly and totally unprovoked. Attacks like these require comprehensive, meticulous and long preparation, we're talking in terms of weeks here. Yesterday's failed attack against Rantisi was therefore totally irrelavant to the bus bombing. It's simple: Terrorists cannot be negotiated with, they must be eliminated like bugs. |
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| Project T |
| was this a suicide or a plant? |
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| Shakka |
| Suicide bomber. Apparently an 18 year old student. yeah, real smart. Student of what??? What are they teaching over there? |
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| Revolution |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Suicide bomber. Apparently an 18 year old student. yeah, real smart. Student of what??? What are they teaching over there? |
Killing people 101.
And for those of who think that Hamas should just 'get the crap kicked out of them', you're idealistic beyond belief. Do you know that Hamas has been around since it broke from the Muslim Brotherhood in 1987? Do you know how many covert incursions there have been by the Isreali Moussad into Palestinian terrotories to try and end Hamas? If it would be as easy as you say, don't you think somone would have already done it? C'mon, think seriously. This is not a small-time organized crime group. This is a well-funded, well-armed group who are not going to cease until they achieve their objective, te complete destruction of the Israeli state. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Revolution
Killing people 101.
And for those of who think that Hamas should just 'get the crap kicked out of them', you're idealistic beyond belief. Do you know that Hamas has been around since it broke from the Muslim Brotherhood in 1987? Do you know how many covert incursions there have been by the Isreali Moussad into Palestinian terrotories to try and end Hamas? If it would be as easy as you say, don't you think somone would have already done it? C'mon, think seriously. This is not a small-time organized crime group. This is a well-funded, well-armed group who are not going to cease until they achieve their objective, te complete destruction of the Israeli state. |
The Israelis cannot destroy Hamas ... at best they can kill a few leaders, kill a few supporters, and limit the number of attacks against it. The true destruction of Hamas can only be accomplished by the Palestinians themselves ... in much the same way that Ben-Gurion eliminated the extremist Israeli terrorist groups in the 40's. And the Palestinians must take action on this issue if they wish a state of their own. |
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