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Anyone know if Oakenfold has any plans to return to the underground?
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I was listening to GU:007 NY disk 2 in my friends car this morning and I got depressed all of the sudden. He hasn’t released a decent album since 3 years ago, and this is supposed to be our "most successful dj"?
Anyone know if oaky is planning a come back? |
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| emono |
well,
is jesus [as a prophet] going to come back? |
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| E-vangelist |
lol good analogy emono :)
Oakenfold is gone... we lost him to commercialism and ty music a long time ago. Oakie was the DJ that initially got me into trance, but now fortunately there's more than enough other DJ's that are WAY more talented to keep us occupied. Need some starters? Armin van Buuren, Astrid, Blank & Jones, Piet Blank, Tillman Uhrmacher, Misja Helsloot, Johan Gielen, Ferry Corsten, Amir Hamami... plus tons more that all smoke Oakenfold especially in the talent department. Listen to their mixing and then go back and listen to Oakie.. not even close. ;)
Don't get me wrong, Oakie back in the day was good.. but I'm afraid that day is over :)
Don't put so much focus on studio albums, there's thousands of gigs of liveset recordings all over the internet. Listen to my station sometime if you have broadband I bet you'll really dig it.
oh plus check out soulseek (www.slsk.org) if you don't already, lots of good electronica to be downloaded from there |
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| twizta |
| quote: | Originally posted by emono
well,
is jesus [as a prophet] going to come back? |
hehehe |
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| Renegade |
| You trying to say that Starry Eyed Suprise isn't underground enough for you? |
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| RWC0412 |
| ^^^^^^^ :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: |
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| 13am |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
You trying to say that Starry Eyed Suprise isn't underground enough for you? |
:ROFLMAO: |
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| melly |
| quote: | | oh plus check out soulseek (www.slsk.org) if you don't already, lots of good electronica to be downloaded from there |
/me points at sig :D |
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| Christopher B |
I think comparing oakey's skills to the newer DJ's skills are like comparing the skills of, lets say, Kobe Bryant to Michael Jordan. Even though the new guys might be technically better, the impact they have made on the scene is not as great. Oakenfold was largely responsible for changing the role of the DJ from a money-making hobbyist to a multi-national superstar. He was the first DJ to play in a stadium, when he opened up for U2 gigs in the early 90's. Even thought the skills of modern DJ's have superceded his, back in his time, he was revolutionary, and unfortunately, not enough people respect that. As far as I know, the only DJ that really pushes the envelope as to what being a DJ means these days is Tiesto, even though he is not necessarily the best DJ or Mixer.
Note: Before you decide to flame me about how bad and sold-out Oakey and Tiesto have become, just remember that what you have to say isn't going to change my mind. |
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| E-vangelist |
First off, I wasn't even flaming Oakie or trying to change anybody's mind (*cough*Christopher) I was simply answering somebody's question. With an opinion, mind you... but I wasn't trying to change anybody's mind so don't flatter yourself ;)
Sure, Oakie did a good job introducting an american audience to trance, but that's only because we weren't hearing the good european music. Tiesto and Armin and Ferry and Digweed didn't just magically pop up last year. They aren't a "new breed" Ferry and Digweed at least have been around just as long or longer and they've ALWAYS had more skill than joakenfold. Look at Gielen he's older than all of them and he's still badass.
I just think Americans (in general, DJ's included) are more succeptible to "selling out" to make money rather that keeping it pure and having it be all about the music because that's what our media tells us is "success". However I don't think necessarily that money = success.
anyway that got pretty off the subject but hey I'm bored |
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| VaNFeCto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Christopher B
I think comparing oakey's skills to the newer DJ's skills are like comparing the skills of, lets say, Kobe Bryant to Michael Jordan. Even though the new guys might be technically better, the impact they have made on the scene is not as great. Oakenfold was largely responsible for changing the role of the DJ from a money-making hobbyist to a multi-national superstar. He was the first DJ to play in a stadium, when he opened up for U2 gigs in the early 90's. Even thought the skills of modern DJ's have superceded his, back in his time, he was revolutionary, and unfortunately, not enough people respect that. As far as I know, the only DJ that really pushes the envelope as to what being a DJ means these days is Tiesto, even though he is not necessarily the best DJ or Mixer.
Note: Before you decide to flame me about how bad and sold-out Oakey and Tiesto have become, just remember that what you have to say isn't going to change my mind. |
I totally agree, couldnt have said it better myself |
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| Dmatrox |
First of all, i dont think of Oakenfold as a Trance Dj. I think of him as a Dj. Whats the difference? Trance dj's play trance, Oakenfold plays music, not exclusively trance.
Many of you have got the impression that oakefold = trance dj. Its not totally true. Oakenfold is more versatile than that and has acheived accomplishments in many different genres of music.
To put things into perspective for those who dont know, read this. its from http://www.thestreetnetwork.com/SN/...sp?xid=24&bio=1
| quote: | In 1989 Oakenfold and his production partner Steve Osborne were asked to produce Happy Mondays. The result was the Madchester Rave On EP, a record that inspired a whole generation of UK artists. It preceded the biggest album of the band’s career, the Oakenfold / Osborne produced Pills ‘N’ Thrills and Bellyaches in 1990.
It was the start of a long connection between Oakenfold and rock music. He was the DJ at several significant British rock concerts and, along with Osborne, re-mixed such UK bands as New Order, The Cure and Massive Attack. Indeed, the Oakenfold / Osborne team were nominated by the BPI – the UK equivalent of the Grammy Awards - as Best Producers in 1990.
A year later, in 1991, Oakenfold was approached by U2, who were then finishing the Achtung Baby album. He ended up re-mixing Even Better Than the Real Thing and Mysterious Ways, giving the band an entirely new dimension.
Indeed, Oakenfold’s mix of Even Better Than the Real Thing was released as a single in its own right, reaching higher in the UK chart than U2’s original version. These activities were the start of Oakenfold’s very long partnership with the band. He was, for instance, invited to DJ on the historic ZOO TV tour and, most recently, Oakenfold re-mixed Beautiful Day, a number one hit for U2 on U.S. dance charts.
Determined to control his own destiny, Oakenfold launched his own UK record label, Perfecto, in 1990. In the subsequent years, Perfecto has been not only a conduit for Oakenfold’s own re-mix activities but also a platform for new talent, encouraging such European DJ talents as Timo Maas and Hernan Cattaneo.
As a re-mixer, Oakenfold has been attributed with an enormous number of credits, working with everyone from Arrested Development and Snoop Doggy Dogg to Madonna, for whom he re-mixed, What It Feels Like For A Girl.
It is now probable that Oakenfold is the world’s number one DJ, if there was any precise way of quantifying such a claim. Certainly, Oakenfold has travelled the world – among the places he’s played are Anchorage in Alaska; Beijing; Bombay; Rio de Janeiro; Buenos Aires; Punta del Este in Uruguay; South Korea; Macao in China; Manila in the Philippines; Johannesburg; Egypt and Ho Chi Min City in Vietnam.
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For a more comprehensive bio, read here: http://www.muchmusic.com/music/arti....asp?artist=504 |
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