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Hmmm There are no Limits of Vulgarity in TV (Which is Good!)
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| occrider |
| I once read somewhere that there are actually no FCC limitations on nudity, violence, and language. I think the real reason why it isn't on tv is due to the networks own discretion of not showing rated "R" material. Anyway, I think it's somewhat confirmed since I'm watching South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut right now on comedy central and they're dropping all kinds of , , uncle ****** bombs. |
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| fuct4less |
| im not sure, but it might be according to the channel's discretion, some channels have more vulgarity/nudity/violence than others. and the southpark movie was nothing to the "" episode. |
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| DaveSaenz |
It's still a far-cry from European channels showing porno after 12...
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| Galapidate |
| *hops on plane to Europe*:stongue: |
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| Eugene |
Public-broadcast channels like ABC, NBC, CBS are formally prohibited by he FCC from showing "obscene" or "indecent" material. There is a law on the books about that.
In contrast, cable channels like TNT, USA, CNN, Lifetime, .. have no such restrictions and can (in theory) show whatever they like.
But, as we all know, that's not the case. The reason for that is these networks are still very afraid. What gets shown on TV depends on how tolerant the audience is, and here in the US most viewers will be outraged to see any "questionable" material on basic cable. The best example of this is the E! channel. This channel, part of basic cable, makes its living by teasing the viewer with its "Wild on..." series, European beach footage, Howard Stern -- but when push comes to shove, it inevitably shies away and blocks any nudity, which is ridiculous and laughable. In fact I laugh at E! and I despise it because it can't show the subject matter around which the whole channel is centered, essentially.
That's why we have yet another, more "premium" set of cable channels, in fact they're called premium cable. They are HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, The Movie Channel, & Starz. These channels freely broadcast nudity, obscenities, violence etc. By the way, did you know that even these channels have some restrictions? In the case of frontal nudity they can only show the upper body in detail. The lower part cannot be "detailed" and must be shown either very briefly or not specifically. Funny but true.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, basic cable is on the same level as public TV because it's just as prude and doesn't show anything. I've stopped watching TV a long time ago because we have basic cable at home. It sucks when you don't have HBO or -especially- Skinemax :(
On the plus side, we also receive a Russian channel. That one is completely European in nature and doesn't shy away from nudity in films or shows, so that's good :)
Given the prudish state of American TV, I get extremely irritated when Joe Lieberman or some of our other "great moralists" start whining that there's "too much sex and violence" on TV, and mothers are screaming that we "need to protect our children from bad influences on TV." What sex?! What violence?! American TV is probably the most conservative in the Western hemisphere. Wake up and smell the coffee! :mad: |
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| Galapidate |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
Public-broadcast channels like ABC, NBC, CBS are formally prohibited by he FCC from showing "obscene" or "indecent" material. There is a law on the books about that.
In contrast, cable channels like TNT, USA, CNN, Lifetime, .. have no such restrictions and can (in theory) show whatever they like.
But, as we all know, that's not the case. The reason for that is these networks are still very afraid. What gets shown on TV depends on how tolerant the audience is, and here in the US most viewers will be outraged to see any "questionable" material on basic cable. The best example of this is the E! channel. This channel, part of basic cable, makes its living by teasing the viewer with its "Wild on..." series, European beach footage, Howard Stern -- but when push comes to shove, it inevitably shies away and blocks any nudity, which is ridiculous and laughable. In fact I laugh at E! and I despise it because it can't show the subject matter around which the whole channel is centered, essentially.
That's why we have yet another, more "premium" set of cable channels, in fact they're called premium cable. They are HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, The Movie Channel, & Starz. These channels freely broadcast nudity, obscenities, violence etc. By the way, did you know that even these channels have some restrictions? In the case of frontal nudity they can only show the upper body in detail. The lower part cannot be "detailed" and must be shown either very briefly or not specifically. Funny but true.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, basic cable is on the same level as public TV because it's just as prude and doesn't show anything. I've stopped watching TV a long time ago because we have basic cable at home. It sucks when you don't have HBO or -especially- Skinemax :(
On the plus side, we also receive a Russian channel. That one is completely European in nature and doesn't shy away from nudity in films or shows, so that's good :)
Given the prudish state of American TV, I get extremely irritated when Joe Lieberman or some of our other "great moralists" start whining that there's "too much sex and violence" on TV, and mothers are screaming that we "need to protect our children from bad influences on TV." What sex?! What violence?! American TV is probably the most conservative in the Western hemisphere. Wake up and smell the coffee! :mad: |
Yeah, the whole "too much sex and violence" part is bogus. I mean, more than 1/2 of primetime shows, aside from news, is reality television. I say there should be a law restricting how many of those shows there could be :D Seriously, I'd still be watching Family Guy on Fox at around 8:30 instead of Adult Swim at 11:30 if it weren't for those low quality programs.:whip: |
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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
Public-broadcast channels like ABC, NBC, CBS are formally prohibited by he FCC from showing "obscene" or "indecent" material. There is a law on the books about that.
In contrast, cable channels like TNT, USA, CNN, Lifetime, .. have no such restrictions and can (in theory) show whatever they like.
But, as we all know, that's not the case. The reason for that is these networks are still very afraid. What gets shown on TV depends on how tolerant the audience is, and here in the US most viewers will be outraged to see any "questionable" material on basic cable. The best example of this is the E! channel. This channel, part of basic cable, makes its living by teasing the viewer with its "Wild on..." series, European beach footage, Howard Stern -- but when push comes to shove, it inevitably shies away and blocks any nudity, which is ridiculous and laughable. In fact I laugh at E! and I despise it because it can't show the subject matter around which the whole channel is centered, essentially.
That's why we have yet another, more "premium" set of cable channels, in fact they're called premium cable. They are HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, The Movie Channel, & Starz. These channels freely broadcast nudity, obscenities, violence etc. By the way, did you know that even these channels have some restrictions? In the case of frontal nudity they can only show the upper body in detail. The lower part cannot be "detailed" and must be shown either very briefly or not specifically. Funny but true.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, basic cable is on the same level as public TV because it's just as prude and doesn't show anything. I've stopped watching TV a long time ago because we have basic cable at home. It sucks when you don't have HBO or -especially- Skinemax :(
On the plus side, we also receive a Russian channel. That one is completely European in nature and doesn't shy away from nudity in films or shows, so that's good :)
Given the prudish state of American TV, I get extremely irritated when Joe Lieberman or some of our other "great moralists" start whining that there's "too much sex and violence" on TV, and mothers are screaming that we "need to protect our children from bad influences on TV." What sex?! What violence?! American TV is probably the most conservative in the Western hemisphere. Wake up and smell the coffee! :mad: |
Haha. Word.
There are premium channels that you can pay for that just show porn though...
In Europe do they have age restrictions on playboy mags? Just wondering....:conf: I know they do on hardcore. |
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Haha. Word.
There are premium channels that you can pay for that just show porn though...
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Actually, no. There's pay-per-view, but it's not like you get a full channel similar to HBO.
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In Europe do they have age restrictions on playboy mags? Just wondering....:conf: I know they do on hardcore.
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They have them in the UK and Scandinavia esp. Sweden, some of the most conservative areas in Europe. Elsewhere nobody gives a . In Holland you can freely shop at a store that's actually hardcore. In Eastern Europe like Slovakia, Poland, Russia, Ukraine etc. anybody can buy whatever the hell they want at any age. Nobody really cares about this stuff too much, as a general rule. Although lately some of the Eastern European countries have begun to tighten control slightly. Germany has a 100-year tradition of celebrating nudity. You can see nudists on the main streets, in the parks, on the beaches, you can see topless women shopping, or sunbathing in downtown Berlin @ the Englischgarten. That's completely accepted and natural in German society. In the early 1900's Germany championed the Frei-Korpus Movement (Free Body), which removed the stigma associated with nudity a loong time ago.
By the way DaveSaenz, I don't think you have to be a certain age to buy Playboy, at least here in Baltimore in the local book stores they're freely available on the stands and nobody I think has the right to refuse to sell something to somebody. The only thing that's not allowed is browsing the magazines in the store -- that's why the come wrapped. As for buying, I don't know of any restrictions. Hehe, some of the people working behind the counters are actually like 15- or 16-year-olds themselves. |
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| fuct4less |
| quote: | Originally posted by Galapidate
*hops on plane to Europe*:stongue: |
im buyin my ticket right now, bro. |
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| DaveSaenz |
Ok so what nation invented the "donkey punch?"
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by fuct4less
im buyin my ticket right now, bro. |
That seems like a lot of work to just watch porn ... the internet exists for some reason right? And despite the fact that European tv is more enlightened, shows nudity, curses, and whatnot, I have funny feeling that American cable tv shows are going to be better simply because of the enormous budget many of these shows have. Could be wrong though, it's been a while since I've watched Euro tv. |
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
That seems like a lot of work to just watch porn ... the internet exists for some reason right? And despite the fact that European tv is more enlightened, shows nudity, curses, and whatnot, I have funny feeling that American cable tv shows are going to be better simply because of the enormous budget many of these shows have. Could be wrong though, it's been a while since I've watched Euro tv. |
yes, they're going to be better and more professionally made.
For example you can't compare American movies and shows with anything else in the world.
Hollywood stuff is the biggest - in terms of acting, for example: American actors are the best. Also special effects, popularity, etc.
European films/shows pale in comparison and they're all on a budget. Plus they don't get the same publicity as Hollywood blockbusters.
Unfortunately that doesn't always make American shows better. I cringe at some of the shows, for example like I mentioned those on the E! channel, or "reality shows" that are stupid and boring. And European movies often go for quality content rather than astounding effects or a shallow storyline. Although there are deep, thought-provoking American movies too. For example "American Beauty." |
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