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Equipment/Software For The Noob (pg. 2)
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| Eugene |
| quote: | Originally posted by nic01445
the progs that Sinistar has are more than enough. you dont need VST's (or loads of refills) to make a decent production. they are helpful, but not necessary. |
disagree with that strongly. Especially for people new at productions VSTs are a big help because they give you the sound you've heard in pro tracks. Then you can gradually learn how to accomplish more with less, as you learn about oscillators and fx and all that...
I don't know about Reason but in Fruity you can't make a "decent" production without VSTs. And judging from the tracks made by TAs using Reason's own synths, I would guess the same is true for Reason. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
it's not more than enough, you need VSTs or (in the case of Reason) refills, and you know that, stop acting so "smart"
not long ago you were a noob yourself :rolleyes:
please improve your attitude |
How about YOU check your attitude, dude :rolleyes:
With Reason you don't NEED refills if you have samples and you can create your own subtractor/malström patches if you know what you're doing.
Anyways, my main point was that when you first start out you don't need a million vsti's and sounds... because you need to learn to build a tune and to use your program first and only THEN worry about the sounds.
Please don't post snobbish bull if you have no idea what you're posting about. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
I don't know about Reason but in Fruity you can't make a "decent" production without VSTs. And judging from the tracks made by TAs using Reason's own synths, I would guess the same is true for Reason. |
If you don't know, don't assume anything either. |
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| Project T |
hmm we made nudawn without vstis and i thought that was fairly decent :conf:
bak 2 topic, u hav more than enuff 2 produce with sinistar, get goin, + help support the effort by buying the progs ;) |
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| Sinistar |
| what does everyone think about the cubase big pack? after i dry the ears, that seems like it would have enough stuff. its like over 700megs. or, if someone thinks theres stuff out there better than cubase, please tell me. thanks again bros. |
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| DJ-Ande |
how much does the best and latest version of 'reason' cost, and what type of computer does it work well on, like the min requirements. iam guessing lots of ram will be needed
plzz help, as iam seriosuly wanting to start producing:) :) |
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| Haimoimoi |
Sinistar, are you referring to the Cubase that comes with the TC Native bundle? Or one of the old VST studio packs?
Either way, you should probably shop around a bit. Try lots of VST demos. If you want to make trance, you'll need good pads, bass, leads, and drums (sample/synth) just to start to get the sounds you want. The real expensive software tends to be the sample libraries. I'd hold off on any major sample purchases until you've explored the synths a little.
Go to http://kvr-vst.com/ for more info on VSTs. They have nice orginized links for the good ones. Also, check the producers forums for threads on VSTs. Download all the freebies you can and commercial demos that you're interested in (I'd reccomend installing demo VSTs and Free/Purchased VSTs to different subdirectories).
When you've played with them some, come back to the Producer's forum with a whole bunch of new questions. |
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| Bren-F |
| quote: | | anyway, im sharing fruityloops, reason and cubase. |
Well thats a hell of a lot of stuff for a n00b IMO.
If your going to use cubase then yes I suppose VST's will help you a lot. though I think you maybe throwing yourself in at the deep end as a n00b. I'd just take it 1 program at a time before trying to run Fruity, reason and cubase all as your production setup.
| quote: | stop acting so "smart"
not long ago you were a noob yourself
please improve your attitude
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I don't think Nik was trying to offend anyone with his comment Shep :( |
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| S2K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Bren-F
I don't think Nik was trying to offend anyone with his comment Shep :( |
Err, maybe it's just me, but wasn't that comment made by Eugene and not Shepless? |
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| Bren-F |
| quote: | Originally posted by S2K
Err, maybe it's just me, but wasn't that comment made by Eugene and not Shepless? |
:o your right :eek:
its those damn avatars look the same to me :p
Sorry shep :( |
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| tu_face |
| quote: | Originally posted by Eugene
it's not more than enough, you need VSTs or (in the case of Reason) refills, and you know that, stop acting so "smart"
not long ago you were a noob yourself :rolleyes:
please improve your attitude |
:stongue:
i find it hilarious you have the balls to say that to anyone.
and for that matter, mr mystery is right. when you are learning to produce, if you use vst synths from the start then u will have no clue how to make the pro sounding synths on your own from scratch with a basic synth.
as far as reason is concerned, you dont really need to download refills, there is a good set of samples that come with it (if you look hard enough ;)) to start producing with. although there are some wicked refills with ubercool samples of things that arnt drums :)
i am a firm beleiver in learning the hard way.. my advice is dont use synth patches that come with the software (or for that matter vst synths while you are learning), however cool they may sound. you need to learn to make them on your own. it may take a while, but it makes for better production skills further down the line :)
i think that to get the best out of cubase (on its own), you need hardware to go with it. i would say start on reason (but dont use the reason sequencer. its gash. i beleive you can use the rewire thing in reason to use cubase to sequence). ppl say fruity is good, but IMO fruity is useless without all the right plugins, plus the layout is a bit of a mess and there is a finite number of fx channels you can use. the layout in reason is very much like hardware, so you wont be too lost when u make the step up from soft to hard synths. i will warn you now, you will find reason a lot more complicated than fruity at first, but when you get down to it its not half as daunting as it may first seem ;) |
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