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The difference between "Mainstream" & "Underground"
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| IpLaYWiTLiGhTs |
No, I'm not some newbie who wants to know the difference....well, not entirely.
I'm always hearing different opinions in to what some people think is "Mainstream" or "Underground".
I have some friends who are strictly prog/dnb heads, and they think ANY type of trance, ANYTHING, is mainstream now. I don't agree with them at all! Sure, you do have your Mainstream trance like DJ Sammy, Alice Deejay, Lasgo, Darude (before Music :p), ATB, etc etc, but then you have classic producers making QUALITY tunes like M.I.K.E, De Goeij, Ferry Corsten, Ralphie B, Darren Tate, etc etc.
Just because popular Trance DJs are famous like Tiesto, Armin Van Buuren, and Ferry Corsten, they consider them mainstream. Sure they do play for the masses, but its the electronica masses. It's not like they're on TV 24/7 getting votes so their videos are played to the masses.
I think they're just a buncha elitest who want their music to stay exclusive, or to them, "underground".
Now my question to you is, what do you consider "Mainstream" & "Underground"? |
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| ampburner |
| quote: | Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Just because popular Trance DJs are famous like Tiesto, Armin Van Buuren, and Ferry Corsten, they consider them mainstream. Sure they do play for the masses, but its the electronica masses. It's not like they're on TV 24/7 getting votes so their videos are played to the masses.
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come live over here for a while ;) |
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| IpLaYWiTLiGhTs |
| quote: | Originally posted by ampburner
come live over here for a while ;) |
Really? It's like that there? People vote and ? ewwwww
So whats your opinion on those DJs.....who do you consider underground? |
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| Omegasox |
Yeah, mainstream is different depending on what part of the world you live in. Also, there is no true definition, it's all based on the opinion of the masses.
If I could get enough people to agree that Tiesto is underground, he'd eventually be considered that since it was popular opinion. |
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| Provitex |
| quote: | Originally posted by ampburner
come live over here for a while ;) |
damn... I would if I could! |
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| ampburner |
| quote: | Originally posted by IpLaYWiTLiGhTs
Really? It's like that there? People vote and ? ewwwww
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well, it is with Tiesto, Ferry Corsten, and some lesser know n (Internationally speaking) hardstyle DJ's (Lady dana etc.)
example: Tiesto getting voted best DJ on the TMF (=mainstream tv, like MTV) awards. Ferry sometimes hops into the TMF studios to promote his new singles/live gigs and such. then there's Armin who got his own radio show :p though I wouldn't consider them mainstream.
Tiësto definetely is. at least over here. not that I blame him or anything, man's gotta make a living |
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| Trance(PL) |
| I knew nsync when they were underground HAHAHAHAHHA :cool: |
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| kewlness |
it doesn't matter if an artist or DJ is mainstream or underground
if they are good, then they are good
if they suck, then they suck
pure and simple like that
if trance became mainstream and everyone listened to it, and doesn't become cheesy such as the likes of alice deejay etc..., i would still love to listen to it |
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| ampburner |
| quote: | Originally posted by kewlness
it doesn't matter if an artist or DJ is mainstream or underground
if they are good, then they are good
if they suck, then they suck
pure and simple like that
if trance became mainstream and everyone listened to it, and doesn't become cheesy such as the likes of alice deejay etc..., i would still love to listen to it |
agreed, but "and doesn't become cheesy" is a key part of your post. unfortunately, that's not always the case :( |
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| mmilo |
| quote: | Originally posted by kewlness
it doesn't matter if an artist or DJ is mainstream or underground
if they are good, then they are good
if they suck, then they suck
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indeed. i mean its pretty crazy that there's a sort of MTV-style thing for trance over there in Holland (probably lots of other place in europe :conf: ) .. however its inevitable that this thing would happen
i mean we all love trance (or dnb,prog whatever you prefer), we all comment on music, offer our opinions, etc. if you're into it, you'd love to hit the club/rave anytime you could.
the atmosphere, the community, its great! but yea again, just because someone's in the spotlight doesn't necessarily make it mainstream and "not worth listening too"..
i'm sure djs have a dream of hitting it big. i mean, look at the "commercialism" of hiphop here in north america, its crazy. personally i think there's too much "pop-hop" out there, cuz there are so many f'n hiphop songs where the lyrics just blow. the beat is absolutely amazing, but thats about it for me.\
if there IS a electronica mainstream.. i find nothing wrong with it..hell i'd probably still join in... because the music rocks, and i doubt too many of the other ppl that think the same would be conforming (sp?) a$$holes ;)
this is a stereotypical comment, but i dont think djs would get into a fight with each other because a dj from the UK was playing dutch stuff... (koff, a reference to east/west coast for hiphop) .. |
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| DJKatheda |
One day, like a year ago, I noticed how insanely huge Tiesto was getting. I said to myself "uh oh, the poor guy is going to sell out". I've waited through countless releases, and with his growing success and popularity, his music only gets better!
Trance is awesome because people get respect for putting out quality tracks, not looking the best on TV or magazines. Tiesto puts out quality tracks, we (the trance fans of the world) give him respect and buy his stuff. If Tiesto sold out, and put out pure crap from now on, we would hate him and not buy his stuff. We wouldn't care how many magazine pictures or TV exposure he has.
Tiesto is keeping it real, and knows who brought him to where he is today. |
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| Galapidate |
| I like to think of mainstream as something generated out of the US. When boy bands became dominant and MTV started playing that garbage is when I think mainstream was born. You can argue that DJs like PvD, AvB, etc are mainstream, but not in the American mainstream. |
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