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burning mp3's onto CDs without gaps btwn tracks?!
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beat-a-holic
anyone know how to eliminate the gaps around the mp3 files when burning a music CD (i'm not talking about the gaps that the CD burning program creates but the ones encoded in the mp3 file itself)?

i tried to circumvent the problem by converting the mp3's to wav, but then my Easy CD Creator f-d up the transitions anyway (it made each wav overlap a little with the next).

this is a huge drawback of the mp3 format...i make many coasters this way. ayudame, por favor!
emul8or
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Abscond
This isn't the appropriate thread to post that kind of question but oh well... try using the search button, this topic has been handled many times :D
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ghlight=burning
ilovetrance2k3
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Originally posted by beat-a-holic
anyone know how to eliminate the gaps around the mp3 files when burning a music CD (i'm not talking about the gaps that the CD burning program creates but the ones encoded in the mp3 file itself)?

i tried to circumvent the problem by converting the mp3's to wav, but then my Easy CD Creator f-d up the transitions anyway (it made each wav overlap a little with the next).

this is a huge drawback of the mp3 format...i make many coasters this way. ayudame, por favor!


well, the only way to really do it it is the rip the tracks as wavs and then encode to mp3,and even then you still hear that little gap. the best way is the download teh cd as one big file and use the cue sheet. or even better way, go purchase the in cd

i think when files are made into mp3s, it cuts off a very very little part of teh file, therefore making it sound somewhat ed, although i have done it where it hasnt made those gaps,but hey, how about buying the cd and supporting the artist
Provitex
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Originally posted by Abscond
This isn't the appropriate thread to post that kind of question but oh well... try using the search button, this topic has been handled many times :D
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...ghlight=burning

Serious! what does burning MP3s have to do with new releases!?
Abscond
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Originally posted by Provitex
Serious! what does burning MP3s have to do with new releases!?

:conf: got me, lol. Closed anyone?
shao
quote:
Originally posted by ilovetrance2k3
i think when files are made into mp3s, it cuts off a very very little part of teh file, therefore making it sound somewhat ed, although i have done it where it hasnt made those gaps,but hey, how about buying the cd and supporting the artist


It's something about mp3 encoding that makes anything encoded to it have about a .02 or .03 second gap. Might be the way the headers are read, but not all types of compressed audio has gaps, thankfully.
mr_smidge
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Originally posted by shao
It's something about mp3 encoding that makes anything encoded to it have about a .02 or .03 second gap.


You're right. In an MPEG-1 layer 3 file, the frame size is calculated as:
FrameSize = 144 * BitRate / SampleRate + Padding (if there is padding)

So, the smallest quantised chunk in a 192kbps 44.1kHz mp3 would be 144 * 192000 / 44100 = 626 bytes. 626 bytes is 5008 bits. And that equates to 5008 / 192000 = 0.026 seconds of music. So the extra silence at the end of an mp3 can be up to 0.026 seconds long, which is unavoidable.

Either use a compression format that doesn't have this restriction (tsk tsk, we should all be using OGG Vorbis by now anyway), or convert all your tracks into WAV, use a sound editing program to remove the silence manually, and burn. As for the comment about Easy CD Creator screwing up WAV transitions, either don't enable that overlap mixing thingy, or use something like Nero, which I'd recommend.

Hope that helps,
djrory
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You're right. In an MPEG-1 layer 3 file, the frame size is calculated as:


mr_smidge has PhD in Mp3
schmagekie
just use nero express and select the option "no pause inbetween tracks"

mr_smidge
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Originally posted by djrory
mr_smidge has PhD in Mp3


It's all a cunning attempt to make everybody here think that I'm really weird... must be working :clown:
ASOT100
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Originally posted by schmagekie
just use nero express and select the option "no pause inbetween tracks"


they're not talkin bout that gap, they're talkin bout the really tiny gap that you still get even when you tell nero to have 0 second gaps
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