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DJ APX
Can somebody explain with all the detail involved :
What would i need to have my own isp , just big enough for one prson = me , and have T1 speed ?
DJ Juno
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Originally posted by DJ APX
Can somebody explain with all the detail involved :
What would i need to have my own isp , just big enough for one prson = me , and have T1 speed ?



a good paying job.

no, in all honesty, i dont know all the details. all i know is its expensive.
Flec
your not an isp unless you are providing the service for someone ( internet service provider)

so because its going to be a t1 line for just yourself, all you have to do is lease a t1 line ( this can be pretty pricey but check some online sites)

on top of that your going to have to pay for installation which is also pretty expensive
DJ Juno
ill be nice. heres a chart with different levles of T1 service. and the courosponding prices.



Technology Speed Description Application Pros Cons Price
ADSL
768Kbps to 6.1 Mbps downstream. Upstream speeds range from 64Kbps-1Mbps.
The most common type of DSL. Deployed over a copper wire pair in conjunction with an analog phone line.
Commercial and consumer Internet service. Popular with consumers because of low-cost, short provisioning times and high download speeds.
High-speed access at a relatively low-cost. Availability is approaching 70% in most major metropolitan areas. Installation times are often less than 30days.
Not available in all areas. Slow upload speed. Bandwidth is aggregated at the Central Office and is subject to oversubscription. Not ideal for businesses or heavy users.
Consumer services starts at $50

SDSL
Up to 2.3Mbps both ways.
A form of HDSL, provisioned over a single twisted-pair of copper wire at distances up to 12,000 feet.
Ideal for businesses due to symmetrical data transmission speeds and advanced features such as multiple IP addresses.
High-speed access at a low-cost when compared to T-1. Often provides more features than ADSL.
Not available in all areas. Bandwidth is aggregated at the Central Office and is subject to oversubscription. More costly and longer install times than ADSL.
Business service starts at $80 and can be as high as $500 monthly.

Frame Relay
56 Kbps - 1.544 Mbps
A high-speed, packet based, data transmission service used in wide area networks (WANs) to connect multiple locations.
Used to connect multiple locations to a main location or to each other.
Cheaper alternative to private line connections. Ability to burst when needed. Widely available.
Up-front equipment cost can be prohibitive.
Monthly cost starts at $500 per location. Price climbs as speed increases..

VPN
56 Kbps - 1.544 Mbps
VPN is a software-defined network that runs over a shared public network and offers the appearance, functionality and usefulness of a dedicated private network, at a price savings.
A highly flexible method of communicating between locations via a secure tunnel on a large public network. Is becoming an increasingly popular alternative to Frame Relay and Private Line.
A user can access the network from any Internet connection. VPNs often cost less and are more flexible and scaleable than competing technologies.
The availability and performance of a company's WAN is largely dependant on factors outside of their control.
Prices mirror that of dial-up or dedicated Internet Access. Cost of the VPN tunneling and encrypting is nominal.

Fractional T-1
128 Kbps - 1.544 Mbps
Same service as a full T-1 provisioned in increments of 64 Kbps. A full T-1 is 1.544 Mbps or 24 channels, Fractional T-1s start at 128 Kbps or 2 channels.
Used to connect a company to the Internet when less than a full T-1 is required. Circuit runs from the location into the Internet.
Provides access straight into the carrier's backbone. Unlike DSL and Cable Modem, there is no aggregation. Fractional T-1s have unused channels which can be turned up on demand.
Setup and monthly costs can be prohibitive.
Starts at approx. $400/month. Required router is additional.

T-1
1.544 Mbps
A 24 channel cirucit that can be used for Frame Realy, Private Line, VPN or, most commonly, Internet access.
Connects a company's LAN into the Internet or carrier's Frame Realy network.
Provides access straight into the carrier’s backbone. Only slightly more expensive than a Fractional T-1. 99% availability in U.S. Very reliable.
Setup and monthly costs can be prohibitive.
Approx. $900-$1,200/month. Required router is additional.

E-1 (Europe)
2.048 Mbps
The European equilivent of the T-1.
Connects a company's LAN into the Internet or carrier's Frame Realy network.
Provides access straight into the carrier’s backbone. Very reliable.
Setup and monthly costs can be prohibitive.
Starts at $2,000/month

Fractional T-3
3 Mbps - 44.736 Mbps
A fraction of a full DS-3, which is comprised of 28 T-1s or 672 channels.
Provides access from a location into the Internet for a large business or ISP (Internet Service Provider).
Provides very high speed access directly into the carrier's backbone. Bandwidth guaranteed by SLA (Service Level Agreement). Very reliable.
Setup and monthly costs can be prohibitive.
Starts at $3,000/month not including the local loop.

T-3
44.736 Mbps
A dedicated connection made up of the equivalent of 28 T-1s.
Provides access from a location into the Internet for a large business or ISP (Internet Service Provider).
Circuit runs directly into the carrier's backbone. Bandwidth guaranteed by SLA (Service Level Agreement). Very reliable.
Setup and monthly costs can be prohibitive.
Starts at $10,000/month for the 45 Mbps. Local loops range from $2,000 - $4,000/month.

E-3 (Europe)
34.368 Mbps
European equivalent of T-3. Made up of the equivalent of 28 T-1s.
Provides access from a location into the Internet for a large business or ISP (Internet Service Provider).
Circuit runs directly into the carrier's backbone. Bandwidth guaranteed by SLA (Service Level Agreement). Very reliable.
Setup and monthly costs can be prohibitive.
Starts at $15,000/month for the 35 Mbps.

OC-3
155.52 Mbps
Optical carrier (fiber) connected by equipment capable of speeds up to 155.52 Mbps.
Large enterprise or ISP backbone.
Extremely high speed and throughput.
Extremely high cost.
Tens of thousands of dollars a month, not including local loop or extensive setup..

OC-12
622.08 Mbps
Optical carrier (fiber) connected by equipment capable of speeds up to 155.52 Mbps.
Large enterprise or ISP backbone.
Extremely high speed and throughput.
Extremely high cost.
Several hundred thousand dollars a month, plus several hundred thousand dollars in setup costs.

OC-48
2.488 Gbps (Gigabytes per second)
Optical carrier (multiple strands of fiber) connected by equipment capable of speeds up to 2.488 Mbps.
Large enterprise or ISP backbone.
Extremely high speed and throughput.
Extremely high cost.
Several hundred thousand dollars a month, plus several hundred thousand dollars in setup costs.




AND a good web site to check out if your interested...

http://www.t1-t3-dsl-line.com/page/17/


-juno
whiskers
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Juno
OC-48
2.488 Gbps (Gigabytes per second)
Optical carrier (multiple strands of fiber) connected by equipment capable of speeds up to 2.488 Mbps.
Large enterprise or ISP backbone.
Extremely high speed and throughput.
Extremely high cost.
Several hundred thousand dollars a month, plus several hundred thousand dollars in setup costs.



hehehe, there's been so much discussion about the OC-48 connection


i'm just wondering if you can afford to set up your own backbone, who the hell do you pay? i mean, technically, the internet is just a bunch of computers connected to each other... crack, it's too late and i'm having trouble thinking..........
Galapidate
Yikes! Several hundred thousand a month?!? DAMN that's expensive.
discitelli
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Juno
OC-48
2.488 Gbps (Gigabytes per second)
Optical carrier (multiple strands of fiber) connected by equipment capable of speeds up to 2.488 Mbps.
Large enterprise or ISP backbone.
Extremely high speed and throughput.
Extremely high cost.
Several hundred thousand dollars a month, plus several hundred thousand dollars in setup costs. -juno


and just think, one day we'll be paying no more than $30 a month for this.
TeKnoHe@d2025
Hmm, think Bill Gates has that OC-48?
jdat
quote:
Originally posted by TeKnoHe@d2025
Hmm, think Bill Gates has that OC-48?


he's got the wireless version of it :p

pre alpha beta release :toothless
DJ APX
quote:
Originally posted by DJ Juno
ill be nice. heres a chart with different levles of T1 service. and the courosponding prices.


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OC-48
2.488 Gbps (Gigabytes per second)
Optical carrier (multiple strands of fiber) connected by equipment capable of speeds up to 2.488 Mbps.
Large enterprise or ISP backbone.
Extremely high speed and throughput.
Extremely high cost.
Several hundred thousand dollars a month, plus several hundred thousand dollars in setup costs.




AND a good web site to check out if your interested...

http://www.t1-t3-dsl-line.com/page/17/


-juno


I finally have a reason to start playing power ball :eyespop:

It would be nice to be independent , don't rely on anybody and have no rules to obey . That's why I'd wnat to have my own independent connection . Cable or T1 would be sufficient enough for me , but there's a lot of $$$ involved from what I see here , unless there's a cheaper way that somebody knows about ?

jdat
quote:
Originally posted by DJ APX
Cable or T1 would be sufficient enough for me , but there's a lot of $$$ involved from what I see here , unless there's a cheaper way that somebody knows about ?


you'd still have rules to obey but a good alternative to having to pay for your connection and getting high speed is school bandwidth :D
whiskers
quote:
Originally posted by jdat
you'd still have rules to obey but a good alternative to having to pay for your connection and getting high speed is school bandwidth :D



with 5,000 other download-hungry students :D

my (former) high school shares a T1 line with the public library (~40 computers) and another high school in our city and let me tell you, even though no one downloads huge files, the connection is rather slow, especially on the stupid iMacs at our school.

i bet it's blazing at night though!
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