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PinkLollypop
i gotta confess i was very depressed a few years ago(not suicidal though) . but then i tried xtc for the first time, and it changed my life. it showed me a different world where everybody is friendly, everything is sooo soft, all colores are sooo beautifull, and trance music (which i hated back then) sounded like a lulluby. it really changed my perception of the world and now i am a happy camper :D

and another thing your girl really needs is to fall in love
cyberia
Could sound a bit harsh(and not meaning to insult your friend)but peepz who commit suicide are stupid selfish bastards,don't flam eme for this one,don't come and tell that I don't know what I'm talking about,cause I do
anyways that doesn't mean that you must'nt help your friend,you just must be there for her,and show here that life is worth living tha's all I can say
and I don't hink that professional help is really the answer,just think about it how would you feel if some one says you need professional help?
Cru5ad3r
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and another thing your girl really needs is to fall in love


Hey PinkLollypop :rolleyes: :D *hint* ahem :eek:

*/me playing (on winamp) - Johan Gielen - Live @ Club Eau [19-08-2000]* :cool:

Anywayz, back to subject, perhaps the solution is not trying to help her out with depression, but solving whats causing it??

:confused:

Crusader
QuickStep
Depression is a dangerous subject and definitely need professional help. That doesn't mean you have to hand your friend over to a professional, usually they ask you, family members, and friends to lead the recovery process. Don't think you alone have the answers for your friend, they are called pros because they either studied or expreienced it. Just don't leave her, she needs support the most right now.

To tell you the truth, I didn't even want to read this thread. I had a good friend come to the point of giving up his life but found hope, and still it hurts to hear about another person. Good luck man.

Payce
totalcarnage
I think someone mentioned earlier about professional help, and that is the best solution. Depression can be caused be a chemical imbalance in your adrenaline, and this should be treated immediately. Drugs like prozac can help, also there are drugs that can help put the missing part back in, and get your body used to creating it again.
Juricimo
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Originally posted by cyberia
and I don't hink that professional help is really the answer,just think about it how would you feel if some one says you need professional help?


c'mon Cy,....professionals are there for this reason....we are not born knwing how to help suicical ppl...we can try....but the professionals would DEFINITELY do a better job....don't argue this point either...:D

>JM<
tranceface
About 6 years ago, my girlfriend called me up and shot herself in the chest. I have lived with the guilt and anguish because I didn't tell someone about what was going on.

She mentioned taking her life several times, but my attitude was "Who doesn't feel this way?" so I remained quiet.

Well she's dead now, and I bet my balls she wouldn't be if I had simply told someone. A parent, a cop, a friend, a shrink... it does not matter.

You owe it to yourself and your friend to tell a professional about the situation. Even if she is not serious, you can take it from me that you do NOT want the alternative. What's the worst that could happen? She may be mad for a bit but she will be alive.

Take this very, very seriously and good luck.


~Steve
cyberia
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Originally posted by tranceface
About 6 years ago, my girlfriend called me up and shot herself in the chest. I have lived with the guilt and anguish because I didn't tell someone about what was going on.

She mentioned taking her life several times, but my attitude was "Who doesn't feel this way?" so I remained quiet.

Well she's dead now, and I bet my balls she wouldn't be if I had simply told someone. A parent, a cop, a friend, a shrink... it does not matter.

You owe it to yourself and your friend to tell a professional about the situation. Even if she is not serious, you can take it from me that you do NOT want the alternative. What's the worst that could happen? She may be mad for a bit but she will be alive.

Take this very, very seriously and good luck.


~Steve

well I'm sorry to hear this steve,but thi sthe reason why I think about peepz who commits suicide this way,they give you a feeling of guilt where you have nothing to do with it,it's their decision,AND they leave you with a lot of question where only they know the answer of it,so Steve don't feel guilty,it's not your fault(in cause you steel feel guilty,and I'm not meaning to disrespect your girlfriend)

now juricimo,I do argue with this point:D:p,those professionals aren't born knwing how to help them neither,they were trained this way,a real suicidal will do it anyway,either he/she gets professional help or not,in most of the cases it are those that don't talk about it,that do it.And those professionals,I donno,maybe they would do a better job,but they aren't familiar with the situation,they only get a short resumé,there where close peepz have lived the whole situations at the start.And still,I stick with my view if you tell that some one needs professional(and also the guy/girl in question,must be willing to get that help!),wouldn't he feel more miserable,and worthless????
tranceface
Cyberia, thanks for your kind words. :)

However, it is my opinion that suicidal people already are at rock bottom, so telling them they need help will not make it any worse. Moreover, that could be what they are really asking for by saying they want to die. They just want someone to show that they actually give a damn about them by lending a helping hand. I say tell a professional immediately, even if you don't tell your friend you are doing so. They are trained to handle those types of situations, I should know.

~Steve
u4ea:[soulstar]
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Originally posted by PinkLollypop
i gotta confess i was very depressed a few years ago(not suicidal though) . but then i tried xtc for the first time, and it changed my life. it showed me a different world where everybody is friendly, everything is sooo soft, all colores are sooo beautifull, and trance music (which i hated back then) sounded like a lulluby. it really changed my perception of the world and now i am a happy camper :D

and another thing your girl really needs is to fall in love


O.O Wow! Good for you. I think you are lucky you didn't take mush, that would have been bad news considering the state you were in that time.

I hope J_Spot is helping the girl out. :p

j_spot
Well I just got back from my trip, and she is still here. She says she is doing better, but I dont know if I can trust her. Thanx for all the advice ppl, Ill see what I can do about it. What I think she really needs is 2 things. Trance and a little J spot =) k..that wasnt funny..Ill get her some happy trance and some pro help if I can. Its a small town(like 500 ppl) and dunno if there is a shrink(is that what she wants)

I remember back when my mom found my letters about killing myself. She brought me to a shrink and I was soo embarassed. Felt like an idiot talking about it, cuz I really wasnt gonna kill myself, just writing suicide notes. well it was very humilitating and kinda pushed me closer...any other hints?

Thanx to everyone who responded. Help was much appreciated.
wasmario
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Originally posted by j_spot
Well I just got back from my trip, and she is still here. She says she is doing better, but I dont know if I can trust her. Thanx for all the advice ppl, Ill see what I can do about it. What I think she really needs is 2 things. Trance and a little J spot =) k..that wasnt funny..Ill get her some happy trance and some pro help if I can. Its a small town(like 500 ppl) and dunno if there is a shrink(is that what she wants)

I remember back when my mom found my letters about killing myself. She brought me to a shrink and I was soo embarassed. Felt like an idiot talking about it, cuz I really wasnt gonna kill myself, just writing suicide notes. well it was very humilitating and kinda pushed me closer...any other hints?

Thanx to everyone who responded. Help was much appreciated.


just be her a good friend;)

btw n/p with helping, one for all, all for one TA ;):D

greetz *gives a little kiss on the forehaed of the poor girl and cheers her up*
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