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Buying some turntables? Check this out.....
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Johnny Eckhardt
Anyone who has seen some of my posts know that I've always said that the only way to go is Technics 1200s, when it comes to getting turntables. I've had my 1200s for about 20 years and they're still as good as the day I got them. Well....check this out...a friend of mine installs systems in clubs all over America. The other day, I sat down with him and we dug into one of the Denon DP DJ151 turntables.what we found out is...they ARE 1200s. All the parts are identical to the 1200s PLUS....the Denons have a digital output which means you can do things like change the tempo without changing the pitch (just like the dual CD players). They also have 3 different brake speeds. The torque is the same as 1200s, exact same tonearm...I mean...every thing is the same. The Denons have a liner under the platter, so if you do something dumb, like spilling a drink on them, it won't go into and onto the circuit board and it up.The Denons also have removable RCA plugs, so you can put your own (of better quality) on them. The power switch is protected, so you can't accidently knock it off.Keep in mind, I am talking about the DENON DP DJ151....NOT..the Denon DP DJ101s. The DENON DP DJ151s appear to be made by Panasonic (the ones who make Technics 1200s). Sound good so far? Here's the real good part...THE DENON DP DJ151 COST ABOUT $200 DOLLARS LESS THAN TECHNICS 1200s....and has more features...other than that, they ARE 1200s.
j_spot
Thanx alot Johnny! Me is in need of advice from non-sales ppl.

Next question

Would you start buying vinyl b4 u get turntables? and Are the slipmats that you can buy from MoS and Gatecrasher etc of any quality? or should u just use factory?
Johnny Eckhardt
Well J....I'd buy vinyl before getting turntables if it's something that I really liked because it won't be available forever. also, that way, you would have something to play when you do get your tables. As far as slip mats go....I suppose they're just as good...don't know for sure. I've always made my own. Just go to any fabric store and get yourself a good piece of heavy felt in the color of your choice, then cut it to the size of a record, poke the hole in the middle and there you have it.What I've also done, which is a little more involved and you have to be more careful when making is...take 2 pieces of felt that are cut the same and 1 piece of thin card board cut the same. Spray one side of the cardboard with spray adhesive and carefully place one of the pieces of felt on it. Let it dry and then do the same on the other side of the cardboard. Be real careful not to get any of the adhesive on any of the felt that will be exposed. That could up your vinyl. But if done right, you'll have your self some good slipmats....in the color of your choice.
j_spot
ok..Ive decided that you know wayy too much!

next question and I know its been asked a million times, but I have some more questions

Mixer...4 channel(+mic) w/ full kills and all the other normal things Whats affordable and decent?
DjMT
Good info, thx Johnny.
Johnny Eckhardt
Well J_Spot...as far as mixers go, I guess it depends on if you want a pro model or just something you're gonna use at home. Do you want rotary or slide controls? As far as knowing way too much...you gotta remember, I've been in this biz since 1980....and after that long let's hope I know something. I have to say, though, I think I'm learning just as much from everybody here.....something new everyday.
skywarp
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Mixer...4 channel(+mic) w/ full kills and all the other normal things Whats affordable and decent?


May I ask why you would need a 4 channel mixer ? If you intend to hook up 2xCD Decks and 2xTurntables you can do that with a 2 channel mixer, the only thing you'd have to do is flip a switch to select between phono (turntable) and line (cd) inputs.
BUT if you really insist on 4 channels, the Citronic Pro 10 seems to be quite affordable. Now personally I would not recommend it but a lot of clubs seem to be using that one. Other than that, Tascam X9 looks very interesting, as competition to Pioneer DJM-600 (IMO the tascam is definitely the better mixer having the choice between the two). But I suppose those are out of your pricerange, costing around $1800 CDN.
patticus
wow.. damn guys
i love reading threads like this, which are actually educating and informative. thanks johnny (again) and skywarp

make more informative threads! :)
j_spot
Ive decided that I know nothing. ABSOLUTLY nothing. A 2 chanel mixer would work quite well. And if there are enuf inputs, then I can switch from line to phono..which makes even more sense(then I dont have to worry about problems mixing from the wrong chanels!) hmm.. ok then.
Now I need a good 2 chanel mixer(for myself) with full kills. Id PREFER(not insist) on rotary controls..and all the other normal things.

TEACH ME!!!
VCD to VCD mixing is easy as ...thats what im used to.
patticus
what the heck is vcd mixing

j_spot
well..a VCD is a video CD. Quite boring to tell you the truth. You can umm...well mix, cut bands, change the EQ and thats about it. No scratching, changing pitch or anything. Just mix from song A to song B. Very very boring, and very very easy
Spun One
I'm in serious market for getting some new turntables and I was going to get some Technic 1200s but after reading your post I'm wondering if the Denon DP DJ151 would be a better bet. Most likely I'll end up getting the 1200s but I'm still shopping around and curious.
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