|
need help from a networking wizard
|
View this Thread in Original format
| PatMcGroin |
alright, so heres my problem. i got a new dsl service for my house and i bought a wireless linksys router (802.11b). now the internet works on every computer, but since the dsl has a dynamic ip, not static, i have to restart the router and the dsl modem everyday because the connection will die when the ip renews.
first of all i want to fix that gay . i dont want to have to restart that EVERY day!
and another thing, i cant access any ftp sites with this because either of the firewall in the router or cuz of the gay ip renewing, i dunno. i'm running winxp, and running the connection from the dsl modem directly into the uplink of the router, and then to all the computers. i do have two nic cards in my comp if that'll make things easier in anyway (dsl modem --> my box --> router --> the other comps in the house) maybe?
also, when i do ipconfig in dos, i see the ip of my router, not my actual ip. maybe that has something to do with it.
i dunno, any idea. cuz this is getting quite annoying.
edit: i also have a linksys hub, if that might work better, dsl modem --> hub --> comps or dsl modem --> my box --> hub --> other comps ??? :conf: |
|
|
| montie |
| quote: | Originally posted by PatMcGroin
alright, so heres my problem. i got a new dsl service for my house and i bought a wireless linksys router (802.11b). now the internet works on every computer, but since the dsl has a dynamic ip, not static, i have to restart the router and the dsl modem everyday because the connection will die when the ip renews.
first of all i want to fix that gay . i dont want to have to restart that EVERY day!
and another thing, i cant access any ftp sites with this because either of the firewall in the router or cuz of the gay ip renewing, i dunno. i'm running winxp, and running the connection from the dsl modem directly into the uplink of the router, and then to all the computers. i do have two nic cards in my comp if that'll make things easier in anyway (dsl modem --> my box --> router --> the other comps in the house) maybe?
also, when i do ipconfig in dos, i see the ip of my router, not my actual ip. maybe that has something to do with it.
i dunno, any idea. cuz this is getting quite annoying.
edit: i also have a linksys hub, if that might work better, dsl modem --> hub --> comps or dsl modem --> my box --> hub --> other comps ??? :conf: |
well on my configuration at home i have my DSL box connected to a SOHO router which is connected to my hub which is connected to all the computers.
I've never had a problem with the dynamic IP of my DSL. my soho router works as a DHCP server, so all the computers on the network have to do is obtain their IP info automaticaly so they all get their own IP addy pluse gateway to the internet (the router).
what is your actualy set up in your house and how do you have your TCP/IP info configured on your comps. I need a little more info :) |
|
|
| Turbonium |
| If you're not gonna be able to fix it in the next little while, I say sleep on it and check this thread tomorrow. |
|
|
| PatMcGroin |
i think we only have one ip, i checked and all the comps are sharing the same ip.
i dunno about the settings, probably all default. i dunno much about routers :( |
|
|
| montie |
| quote: | Originally posted by PatMcGroin
i think we only have one ip, i checked and all the comps are sharing the same ip.
i dunno about the settings, probably all default. i dunno much about routers :( |
all the comps are sharing hte same IP?
then none of htem would work on the network.
what type of router do you have?
i suggest what you do is you connect your DSL box to your router. it should have a jack on it that says WAN.
then connect one of the otehr jacks (which should just be labeled 1-however many other jacks you have) into your hub.
and then connect the comps to the hub.
if you have a newer home router, that router will more than likely act as the gateway and DHCP server meaning, it will access the internet using whatever IP address your ISP gives you. it will then give out private addresses to all your computers on the network and designate it as the gateway. so no matter what the IP address your ISP gives you, the address which your network computers use to connect to the internet will stay the same. |
|
|
| PatMcGroin |
| quote: | Originally posted by montie
all the comps are sharing hte same IP?
then none of htem would work on the network.
what type of router do you have?
i suggest what you do is you connect your DSL box to your router. it should have a jack on it that says WAN.
then connect one of the otehr jacks (which should just be labeled 1-however many other jacks you have) into your hub.
and then connect the comps to the hub.
if you have a newer home router, that router will more than likely act as the gateway and DHCP server meaning, it will access the internet using whatever IP address your ISP gives you. it will then give out private addresses to all your computers on the network and designate it as the gateway. so no matter what the IP address your ISP gives you, the address which your network computers use to connect to the internet will stay the same. |
yeah, you missed my point. thats what i'd like to happen, but because the ip renews itself every day, its not so simple.
and its a linksys wireless router (802.11b), and all the comps work just fine on the network and internet. my setup just isnt working the way i want it to. |
|
|
| whiskers |
are you sure your router is set to "dynamic ip address"? you might also fiddle with PPPoE settings. because your connection shouldn't "die" when your ip renews - that sounds like your router isn't auto-obtaining the renewed ip.
so basically, you have two nics in your pc, one is connected to the dsl modem and the other one to the hub? that might be creating problems for your ftp access from other computers. in that case, what i would suggest you do, is rewire your connections in the following way:
dsl modem -> hub -> clients; i.e., remove your pc from the route between the modem and the hub and put it on lan on the hub.
i doubt this helps, but worth a try. |
|
|
| Orbax |
w/out reading other posts...
all internal IPs should be virtual, ie for the sake of telling them apart. 10.0.0.1 etc... only the router should be grabbing an IP address dynamically and going into the hub. Now, if you have purchased multiple IP (dyncamic licenses) just set them to dynamic and have the DSL modem going into a hub.
also with 2 nics one has to be the in nic the other the out nic and they have to be bound accordingly through the protocal stacking...
i dont know why you would do that though. The only reason to do a 2 nic spread is to diffuse a modem connection. Just have the hub outside and 1 nic. |
|
|
| PatMcGroin |
okay guys. the hub isnt connected to anything.
dsl modem --> router --> comps
^^ is my current setup
BUT i do have an extra nic card and a hub as well if that would help at all. |
|
|
| PatMcGroin |
| quote: | Originally posted by whiskers
that sounds like your router isn't auto-obtaining the renewed ip.
|
^^ bingo. thats my guess. |
|
|
| kid nyce |
ok lets tackle one thing at a time....
to route DSL to ur machines you need to check a few things. make sure that from your DSL MODEM to ROUTER that you are using a PATCH cable, not a regular cat5 ethernet line. if you arent sure if u have a patch cable or not, chances are you dont have one, but if i remember correctly, the linksys router comes with a patch cable. you need to connect the modem to the router via patch cable. next thing is that the ROUTER is running DHCP and is automatically set at dynamic dhcp setting. meaning that the router will frequently check ur DSL Modem for IP changes. Ok now the config so far is ur Modem to Router and vice versa. this is ur first line/firewall of defense.
the job of the router is to take one IP and connect multiple computers to it. the router distributes IPs which are not routable on the internet (10.10, 192.168) so lets see now connect each computer to ur router and run the ipconfig /release /renew. you should be able to pull up internet for all ur machines. be sure to check in ur router settings whether it is set to DYNAMIC or STATIC. we want it on DYNAMIC. thats the simple method to connecting ur computers to ur router and router to ur DSL Modem.
now for the wireless hub...
the wireless hub should be connected to one of the ports of the routers using a PATCH cable. you take port 4 of ur linksys router and connect it to the uplink of the wireless hub via PATCH Cable. you can find this at your local computer store. remember when going from firmware devices such as router to router or modem to router or anything u should use patch cables to crossover ur ethernet. hope i helped and im sure my explanation isnt the greatest, just thought i'd shed some light on as much as i could....
-brian |
|
|
| PatMcGroin |
| the hub is not wireless, the router is. but forget the wireless part, it doesn't really matter. |
|
|
|
|
