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Trance Bass revealed. Motorcycle- ATRC (avb mix) dissected. (pg. 2)
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| josh |
| that a great and good one mate!!! it give me more idea on producing the tracks! GOOD WORK! |
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| Taz |
| quote: | Originally posted by DC-
while your process isn't incorrect, it is very tedious, nobody goes through this much trouble in creating a bassline most of the time. Addmitedly layering is essential in creating interesting sounds, what you've done is overkill. |
Exactly...they use PRESETS!! :haha: :haha: Why go through all that trouble when a Japanese engineer did it for you! j/k Not to stick it to DC but it's true, people often cheat.
Barbs aside, judging by the Armin sample, dj-sean's approach looks about right. Whatever the method you use, the underlying concept is separate treatments for the subs range and the mids upward.
But even after layering the basslines, we're STILL not finished:
- Compression! That final mix file still sounds a mite scrawny (and the delay could be a hair louder IMO).
- Attention to note lengths. The original bassline goes da-dum dum da-daaaah. It's not all staccato.
Nevertheless, nice work! |
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| christofa |
this is great, i'm gonna try this out right away
I wish I could dissect great basslines like that :) |
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| dj-sean |
| quote: | Originally posted by Taz But even after layering the basslines, we're STILL not finished:
- Compression! That final mix file still sounds a mite scrawny (and the delay could be a hair louder IMO).
- Attention to note lengths. The original bassline goes da-dum dum da-daaaah. It's not all staccato.
Nevertheless, nice work! |
Thanks for the comments. Compression is still something that I haven't really grasped, or at least gotten good at. Out of curiosity, what type of compression would you do to the final mix to beef it up? What would you use to do so?
Cheers =) |
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| kewlness |
very nice tutorial...
all i have to say ;) |
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| Taz |
regarding compression: Use anything, as long as it's not too much of it.
Set it so it's way too extreme, adjust the time so it sounds rhythmically nice and bouncy, and then back off on the amount to something normal. |
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| dj-sean |
Thanks for the compression tip!
As for blowing the speakers, it was perhaps a poor choice of words. I didn't mean that it would literally blow your speakers, but rather that the kick and the low part of the bassline most likely (and in this case they do) share some frequency range, so playing them at the same time would cause levelling issues that could be easily avoided by simply not having them overlap. An alternate solution would be to EQ them such that they no longer share similar frequencies in any abundance.
As for polyphony; yes, of course. If you had a really nice hardware synth like a Virus then I'm sure you could whip something like this together in no time. My objective was to use tools that were either free or really cheap, such that anyone can get close to a "pro" sounding bassline without investing thousands on equipment and the aid of a japanese sound engineer, as one person put it =)
Sound: You should stop by my clubnight some time and chat. Check the Western Canada forum for more details. |
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| Clinical |
As Vizay said, this type of post really is what makes these forums what they are. Really dj-sean, ing blinding to see ppl share their knowledge with people that aren't as clued up, such as myself.
Fairplay to your good self :) |
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| dj-sean |
| Glad I could help =) I would have killed for a post like this 6 months ago, so instead of doing what most producers do and keep hard-earned secrets to myself (no disrespect, I can see why this stuff is largely secret), I figured I'd share. The more solid production tips shared, the more quality trance releases for me to play =) |
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| kr00t0n |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj-sean
Glad I could help =) I would have killed for a post like this 6 months ago, so instead of doing what most producers do and keep hard-earned secrets to myself (no disrespect, I can see why this stuff is largely secret), I figured I'd share. The more solid production tips shared, the more quality trance releases for me to play =) |
Now THAT is what I like to hear *gives you 2 thumbs up* :D |
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| iLLicit |
Wow, this guide is really nice. It's good to see members sharing their experiences/techniques.
I once read in an interview that Armin uses the same synth for all his basslines, but I can't remember the name of it. However I do think you have made a great copy of it. Maybe you need a bit more compression on the bassdrum and bassline and it will all sound better.
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| Trancevision |
awesome post man. Bringin' back life to the forum. Couldn't stand the weekly "how to start production thread" anymore:gsmile:
Motivates me too to share some secrets...
(to be continued) ;)
Trancevision |
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