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Korean TA's: Need info on Arirang
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| Maaz |
I can't stop listening to this old Korean song called Arirang (hence the name of the topic :D) and I was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it. I already know the story behind this song (that Arirang is the name of a hill in which people were executed and it became some sort of anthem for the Korean bravery and stuff), but there are three things I was wondering:
1) What would a Korean think of a foreigner singing it? Is it okay or is it just weird?
2) What do the lyrics say? (In case you don't know the song but you speak Korean, the lyrics are in a gif file in the end of this post)
3) Can I pronounce O as O|? I'm asking it because of my accent :toothless
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| Iyrlk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Maaz
I can't stop listening to this old Korean song called Arirang (hence the name of the topic :D) and I was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it. I already know the story behind this song (that Arirang is the name of a hill in which people were executed and it became some sort of anthem for the Korean bravery and stuff), but there are three things I was wondering:
1) What would a Korean think of a foreigner singing it? Is it okay or is it just weird?
2) What do the lyrics say? (In case you don't know the song but you speak Korean, the lyrics are in a gif file in the end of this post)
3) Can I pronounce O as O|? I'm asking it because of my accent :toothless
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1) What would a Korean think of a foreigner singing it? Is it okay or is it just weird?
As a 15yr old korean i would consider u pathetic if u sing this song.
2) What do the lyrics say? (In case you don't know the song but you speak Korean, the lyrics are in a gif file in the end of this post)
its pointless, and also the lyrics is basically arirang arirang and some stupid that has no fuken meaning and if u want me to really translate it, u can go die (i dont feel very sympathetic on stupid 1700 year old songs)
3) Can I pronounce O as O|? I'm asking it because of my accent :toothless
sure what ever u want to do.. no ones stopping you..
and um... how???? the helld u get this song???????? |
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| Iyrlk |
shakes head... a brazilian listening to korean traditional songs...
what is the world coming to these days... |
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| Maaz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Iyrlk
and um... how???? the helld u get this song???????? |
Your mother recorded it in a tape for me, because she didn't have any change for my one dollar bill.
You're 15, right? Well, it seems there's still loads of things for you to learn, such as respect for older people and for other cultures: the reason why I'm okay listening to Korean traditional songs is because we usually miss a lot of stuff when we look just to our own reality - the more you know about other cultures, the better you understand the world you live in. Now, if you can't come up with an intelligent reply to my question, don't bother ;)
Have a nice day :) |
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| Iyrlk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Maaz
Your mother recorded it in a tape for me, because she didn't have any change for my one dollar bill.
You're 15, right? Well, it seems there's still loads of things for you to learn, such as respect for older people and for other cultures: the reason why I'm okay listening to Korean traditional songs is because we usually miss a lot of stuff when we look just to our own reality - the more you know about other cultures, the better you understand the world you live in. Now, if you can't come up with an intelligent reply to my question, don't bother ;)
Have a nice day :) |
When it comes to respect for older korean people or any korean
i KNOW by EXPERIENCE that they are nothing but useless
they are all pathetic and have no independance or self confidence in situations where they have to deal with many ppl alone
they are all ing pussies and they get their 'friends' to beat ppl up if u dont bow down to them
yes if u didnt realise by now that i ing abhor koreans there
i have respect for ppl who are not total pussies wihtout ppl always beside them
and lets see the korean government and the whole north korea
there is more corruption in korea than 80% of all countries
now the korean adults
ing obsessed with POINTLESS ING 'education' in korea where NO ONE learns ANY real
starting with elementary kids staying up till 12 to learn grade 7 stuff and blahblah and colleges that are so HARD to get in but once u get in u CAN DO NOTHING and graduate with all blabla
i have no respect for my country or ppl
the knowledge of other cultures is not the important thing and neither is understanding the world important i personally think all cultures are pointless and this world is about 1:1 relationship with other ppl from different cultures not about some ed up hysteria about the arabs VS israelites |
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| Iyrlk |
i can write a 40 page essay on why and how my country deserves no respect from anyone
and how koreans are just pathetic
if any korean disagrees with me pm me |
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| Iyrlk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Maaz
I can't stop listening to this old Korean song called Arirang (hence the name of the topic :D) and I was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it. I already know the story behind this song (that Arirang is the name of a hill in which people were executed and it became some sort of anthem for the Korean bravery and stuff), but there are three things I was wondering:
1) What would a Korean think of a foreigner singing it? Is it okay or is it just weird?
2) What do the lyrics say? (In case you don't know the song but you speak Korean, the lyrics are in a gif file in the end of this post)
3) Can I pronounce O as O|? I'm asking it because of my accent :toothless
Poem translation:
Arirang Arirang (Arirang but just in a slang/rhythmic way)
(I'm) going over the hill of Arirang
The one(this case a man who this female poet/singer is in love with)
who leaves without me
Gets a (feet pain? or whatever) before even going 10 Li(an ancient korean measurement of distance)
and i dont get your 3rd question
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| Maaz |
(serious post now)
I don't know what's the problem you have with your motherland, but you're being a bit unfair.
1) During the last 20 years, Korea managed to develop its industries and became an example for developing countries all over the world. Not to mention that, thanks to the Korean people who helped the government, South Korea was able to survive the "Great Asian crisis of the 90's", which affected most economies in the Asia-Pacific.
2) If there was no self-confidence and no independence, Korea wouldn't have survived Japan's invasion. Let's just remember that the Korean nation has always been threatened by its neighbours, but it still exists.
3) Talking about Korean Education, Hangul has got to be the most efficient writing system ever. I've got no information about how the rest of the educational system works, but Korea wouldn't be able to become a powerful economy if they had problems with their educational system.
4) Corruption exists in most countries of the world. It's not a Korean priviledge.
5) You're aware that kicking North Korea's arse is not a wise solution, right?
:)
Well, thanks for translating the lyrics. My third question is that, if I pronounce O as O|, is it still possible to understand what I mean? I've had problems with this sound in Russian (because "there was" often sounds like "I couldn't care less" when I mispronounce it), so I was wondering if the same happened in Korean. |
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| Trancer85 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Maaz
I can't stop listening to this old Korean song called Arirang (hence the name of the topic :D) and I was wondering if anyone could give me some more info on it. I already know the story behind this song (that Arirang is the name of a hill in which people were executed and it became some sort of anthem for the Korean bravery and stuff), but there are three things I was wondering:
1) What would a Korean think of a foreigner singing it? Is it okay or is it just weird?
2) What do the lyrics say? (In case you don't know the song but you speak Korean, the lyrics are in a gif file in the end of this post)
3) Can I pronounce O as O|? I'm asking it because of my accent :toothless
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1) hahaha I guess it would be weird because i have never heard the song myself.
2) Arirang
Arirang arirang it is arirang...
arirang im walking up a high hill...
my love that leaves me...
If you leave me...
you won't be able to walk another mile (cause of guilt i suppose)...
3)no they pronounce different...its kinda hard tryin to explain |
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| Trancer85 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Iyrlk
i have no respect for my country or ppl
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Such a pity that you have to live with an identity crisis.
| quote: | Originally posted by Iyrlk
When it comes to respect for older korean people or any korean
i KNOW by EXPERIENCE that they are nothing but useless
they are all pathetic and have no independance or self confidence in situations where they have to deal with many ppl alone
they are all ing pussies and they get their 'friends' to beat ppl up if u dont bow down to them
yes if u didnt realise by now that i ing abhor koreans there
i have respect for ppl who are not total pussies wihtout ppl always beside them |
First of all quit stereotyping, and if you were a victim of getting beaten up by a Korean...that is your own fault because judging by your immature responses, your 15 year old pubescent ways must have triggered it and that you deserved it.
| quote: | Originally posted by Iyrlk
and lets see the korean government and the whole north korea
there is more corruption in korea than 80% of all countries |
hmmmm blaming things on Korea?? when it was the Chinese's communist ways that influenced north korea?? quit being a scapegoat and get a life....no wonder you got your ass kicked!!:haha: :haha: |
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| dj tek |
LOL...wow i havent heard this tune being mentioned in a long ass time..i was just humming the melody to myself the other day.. its funny a Brazillian would have interest in a Korean folk song... but yeah, Trancer85 pretty much explained everything you've asked..actually korean ppl wouldnt find it 'weird' if they heard yu sing the song.. they'll probably wanna find out why or how you know the song in the first place..
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| Iyrlk |
trancer85
1. you
2. i never got beaten up becuz im not stupid enough to just get beat up
3. im not stereotyping its true for 99%+ koreans
4. if u want to start korean politics bring it cuz im pretty sure about everything starting from 1700s to now and i know how thigns are going on better than most koreans
5. and i do have a life considering the fact that im not stereotypical korean like you
6.First of all quit stereotyping, and if you were a victim of getting beaten up by a Korean...that is your own fault because judging by your immature responses, your 15 year old pubescent ways must have triggered it and that you deserved it.
and when did i post that I GOT BEATEN UP???
i specifically said: they are all ing pussies and they get their 'friends' to beat ppl up if u dont bow down to them
i dont see any word like I or me or anything that has to do with the writer
7. and wtf is wrong with ur korean translation u sure ur not just a 10 yr old korean trying to be cool by showing u can translate 50% correct translation? i bet a random chinese guy learning korean can do better translation than this:
Arirang arirang it is arirang...
arirang im walking up a high hill...
my love that leaves me...
If you leave me...
you won't be able to walk another mile (cause of guilt i suppose)...
Arirang Arirang (Arirang but just in a slang/rhythmic way)
(I'm) going over the hill of Arirang
The one(this case a man who this female poet/singer is in love with)
who leaves without me
Gets a (feet pain? or whatever) before even going 10 Li(an ancient korean measurement of distance)
Corrections:
10 Li is not a mile its much more than that
walking up a hill and going over is different words in korean
"If you leave me..." where the is this from the song????
"cause of guilt i suppose)... " its not guilt its the poets infatuation blinding her to think that he cant go more than 10 Li
the Nim part of the poem is not 'you' its the 'lover'
i thought all koreans learned this in elementary or have enough common sense in translation to know this
(adds another pathtic korean to my list )
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