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blazed it
This saturday as I was leaving home from a party around 3 a.m.I think I might have been caught running an yellow light that may have turned red before I got through the intersection. I saw a yellow light and I gunned my car for it, but as I was passing through the intersection I saw 2 quick flashes from the lightpost.

Has this ever happened to you? Does anybody know how to beat a photo citation?


please help!
Photo_bot_2k1
ive done worse than you at camera intersections
onet ime i thought i could make a yellow but by the time i got to the line it already turned red, so i straight up ran a red light
there was a camera there but i didnt see flashes...
it was the daytime tho

but... i didnt get a ticket

so i dunno
maybe other people can shed more light on this
PhloTron
Well your best bet may be this:

Some cities that have photo lights used to set the yellow light for shorter periods of time than the regular lights. I.E. Yellow lights last for 3 seconds and of course mean proceed with caution...Now if they set the photo light for 2 seconds the light turns red faster...you don't expect it...since you do get used to how long lights take to change and your dead meat. Now if you can prove that the light changes faster than the lights without cameras, you could argue Entrapment. It happened here a couple years back and they had to set all the lights to the same timing of 3 seconds. (The shorter yellows with cameras not only increased "red light infractions" it also increased accidents --mostly rear-enders--due to the lights changing faster than "normal".) The city ended up paying a lot of bills for that too once the courts found this out as well, and lawsuits started popping up after the entrapment verdicts.

The camera does take correct photos (or should)... i.e. a car triggers it in the intersection a specific time AFTER a red light appears. Plus (from what i've seen) the camera photos both the vehicle and the light, thus showing your location in the intersection with a red light. Thus if you are barely entering the intersection with the red light...you should never have been there...rather than exiting the intersection at the red light...thus the camera never would have taken the photo.

Also note: A city doesn't have infinate $$$...they may have 100 camera intersections, but only 25 cameras. They rotate the camera location so drivers never know where the cameras are, even though the 100 intersections are labeled. This way you have 100 "safer" intersections, while saving a little $$ with # of cameras. Maybe why you "got away with one" Photo...or the timer was set for later.

oh and since this is camera related.

pics or stfu & good luck :D:conf:
Photo_bot_2k1
quote:
Originally posted by PhloTron
Thus if you are barely entering the intersection with the red light...you should never have been there...rather than exiting the intersection at the red light...thus the camera never would have taken the photo.


wooo hooo saved by reckless driving again!

lessson for hte kiddies: if your gonna run a light, make sure you do after the light turns red
blazed it
quote:
Originally posted by PhloTron


Also note: A city doesn't have infinate $$$...they may have 100 camera intersections, but only 25 cameras. They rotate the camera location so drivers never know where the cameras are, even though the 100 intersections are labeled. This way you have 100 "safer" intersections, while saving a little $$ with # of cameras. Maybe why you "got away with one" Photo...or the timer was set for later.

oh and since this is camera related.

pics or stfu & good luck :D:conf:


thanks for the advice, but i saw flashes.... unless they switch cameras around and they just leave the flashes i hope.
AnotherWay83
what a coincidence...the EXACT same thing happened to me today on my way home from the gym...light was abt to turn red and i stepped on it, and then noticed 2 quick flashes...i think the cost is abt 75 bux for breaking a red light
blazed it
fraid it's not 75 bucks man... not in california anyways... it's like freakin $270. i'm ting bricks on because of that.
AnotherWay83
oh really? i guess u're prolly right...cos i remember sumthing abt it being that high from back when my mom got a red light citation...im in CA too...guess we're both screwed...u also get an option to go to driving school or sumthing but that turns out even more expensive
PhloTron
other interesting stuff on this...class action suits...etc.

Judge Fights His Own Ticket!!! and Wins!!
San Diego Class Action More On San Diego Lockeed Martin Profits are illegal on the system
There is a Legal Book Comin out soon :D
And some valid opinions to boot

Ok that's about 5 minutes of searching so there is tons more info on this stuff. blah blah blah.

Don't run Red Lights Kids...
TeKnoHe@d2025
Hmm, I never knew such a thing existed. There is a red light near me that has a strobe in it though...to warn drivers to stop. It's at a bad intersection coming off of the highway into a city.

*EDIT* I was searching for more info about these "Traffic light cameras" and check out what I came across: http://www.invisiplate.com/

I might have to get me some of that stuff! There is also a section on that site which shows all 50 states and how much the fines will be if you get caught...plus if your state has any of these traffic lights. :D

Jamie_
Just do what we do here in the UK, If you get flashed by a Red Light Camera, just crash into a police car and claim the devil made you do it.

Our crap justice system will let you off and put you in a nice warm padded room for a few years...

:stongue:
Trancention
On a small unimportant note, if you go over 160 miles per hour, the camera cannot catch your car on the picture (esp. the cameras on the freeway in japan.) :D
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