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Kick Trick
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| Etherium |
I found a tip on making kicks a couple of months ago and combined with another tip here on tranceaddict to make a nice kick.
Here goes:
1.)Find a kick sample that has a nice click in the beginning of the transient. EQ this sample rolling everything below 1000Hz off.
2.) Take a second kick that has a lot of oomph in it. Find the highest amplitude point of this kick and trim and crop from there until the end of the waveform. Next, roll everything off above 500 Hz or so. At 300 Hz, perform a 2 decibel cut, but no more than 2db.
3.) Now save these two kicks and put them in two separate tracks in Fruity. Set up a four on the floor for both samples. Now take the low booming kick from 2.) and go to the envelope edit menu in Fruity's sampler. The volume envelope has an adsr, but it also has a delay part. Give this kick just a little bit of delay, that way it sounds just a little after the higher frequency kick counterpart.
4.) Export a 1 bar loop to wav.
5.) Again, open up your wave editor, open the file you just created and trim and crop the kick. (MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING ALL OF YOUR TRIMMING AT THE ZERO POINT CROSSING, OR ELSE YOU WILL GET CLICKS).
6.) Now, take a cymbal and reverse it. Crop the first part of the reversed sample and paste it at the beginning of the kick.
7.) EQ the kick at around 100 Hz or so (3 db boost). Give another boost of a few decibels around 11kHz for sparkle.
8.) Compress, experimenting with a medium release and medium attack.
Bam, you got yourself a nice kick.
Of course, be smart about the kick samples you use. For the low part, an 808 works well.
Hope this helps, sorry if you guys already knew this one.
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| kewlness |
nice tip etherium!
thx for sharing that with us |
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| Floorfiller |
| etheruim proves again that he knows the stuff hehehe...great tip man. i'm gonna try that one... |
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| Cuervo79 |
| Hey man newbie here, I got all confused, could you post an flp of the example???? |
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| kewlness |
| you can't really post an flp of it... as it involves editing the actual samples... however.. if u pm me or something about anything specific things you need help with i'd be more than glad to help u |
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| Etherium |
Yes guys, I was planning on posting the two kicks I used to make the new kick, plus the reversed mini-cymbal sample. I will also post a four bar loop of just the new kick (with no bassline).
I actually made another one last night that sounds better than the first one. The first one I did with Grado headphones (great sound, but colored sound). This one I did with my Event monitors.
Maybe after that I will try to put a bassline from my Ion along with it.
I'll try to post that stuff tonight. |
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| christofa |
just a couple questions, I have a slight idea of what you mean, but i'm not sure. I use FL as well, if that helps.
-how do you "roll off" above/below a certain hz
-how do I cutoff/boost a certain number of db
-whats "zero cross point"
I've seen a kick tutorial like this in the past, but had the same problems. I really want to try this because my kicks are pretty weak!
thanks |
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by christofa
...please :) |
hopefully this will make sense although i think etherium did a great job of explaining it...
how do you "roll off" above/below a certain hz
to do this there is a couple of ways. first way is to use a filter. go into the effects and assign either a low/mid/hi-pass filter to the channel and play around with it till it makes sense hehehe.
another way to do this would be to go back into effects and use EQ. in the EQ there will be different knobs for different frequency ranges once again play and see what it does hehehe..
how do I cutoff/boost a certain number of db
to cutoff or boost a certain number of db...you need to use a compresser or a limiter. go into effects once again and assign a compressor to your channel. then bassed on the settings to provide it will boost or cut the volume at a certain db.
whats "zero cross point"
don't really know how to explain this but if you are editing a kick...just make sure that you cut out all the silence and make sure that the start of the kick is at the right place...
hope that helped somewhat...now everyone knows why i don't write tutorials hehehe... |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
whats "zero cross point"
don't really know how to explain this but if you are editing a kick...just make sure that you cut out all the silence and make sure that the start of the kick is at the right place...
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What he means is, if ur looking at a waveform in an editor, there will be a horizontal line running through the centre of it. Whenever the line of the waveform meets this horizontal line, its at the 'zero cross point', and if u cut here there will be no clicks when the sample plays. U have to zoom in as far as u can to make sure ur cutting at the right place. |
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| Etherium |
Yes, what Fuq said. You really do have to zoom in all the way, if not, clicks will occur for sure. You can also check "Always snap to zero-crossing". This way it does it for you, but I'm not sure I always trust it.
I will post those kicks soon, they are nothing special though, the main idea with this thread is to give a "kick recipe" and you can use your own ingredients (kick samples) to refine it. |
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