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| vtec junkie |
| i hate politics but i still vote. |
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| DJYaNiK |
| 18 in December. Will vote next election. |
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| mezzir |
i really respect what you're saying, but i'm completely uneducated when it comes to politics, and i know it
so i'd vote, cause i, like a lot of people i know, don't really want to put bush into power
but also, i don't feel that with my level of understanding i should be voting
i mean voting's good and all and people should, but ONLY if they understand all of the candidate they're choosing's views and support them. telling people just to go vote even if they're not properly educated is probably part of the reason why bush is in power now |
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| umes23 |
do you really think you can attribute things like why you don't have a job or why your job sucks to the president?
i think this is probably naiive. anyway, the "choices" you get in this democracy are not really options. you have two parties and only their nominees that will ever be voted to office. in the grand scheme of things, it's a choice between two very close things. the distinctions that seperate democrats and republicans are minute. it is impossible to vote someone into presidency who actually stands for something different or novel. if that's what you want, who are you going to vote for?
i have friends that really like nader for example. they might vote, but their vote is just a record somewhere in the books. it will never count in consequence. if people feel this way and decide not to vote, i understand their 'apathy'. it's basically refusing to make the choice between two things you don't agree with. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by umes23
i have friends that really like nader for example. they might vote, but their vote is just a record somewhere in the books. it will never count in consequence. if people feel this way and decide not to vote, i understand their 'apathy'. it's basically refusing to make the choice between two things you don't agree with. |
So? If you ask me that's no excuse to not vote. Only 51% of the population actually voted in the 2000 elections. Of the remaining 49% if only 15% of those people are those who are disillusioned with both parties and didn't vote either green or independant because they didn't think it would "matter", actually came out to vote, that alone would be enough to draw widespread attention to those parties and make them serious contenders in future elections. At the very least the two main parties would be forced to examine the reasons why the green/independant party were attracting such a large following and adjust their policies somewhat to attract those voters. People who complain and don't vote disgust me. Even if a person disagrees with EVERY single candidate on the ballot they should at the very least vote for the candidate that is the LEAST offensive. To do otherwise is like being offered the choice of being shot in the foot or being shot in the head and not choosing which one you want because both suck :rolleyes:. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Renegade
Vote Dean. Don't make me come over there....
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Shake your fist all you want ... hell no! :D |
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| umes23 |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
So? If you ask me that's no excuse to not vote. Only 51% of the population actually voted in the 2000 elections. Of the remaining 49% if only 15% of those people are those who are disillusioned with both parties and didn't vote either green or independant because they didn't think it would "matter", actually came out to vote, that alone would be enough to draw widespread attention to those parties and make them serious contenders in future elections. At the very least the two main parties would be forced to examine the reasons why the green/independant party were attracting such a large following and adjust their policies somewhat to attract those voters. People who complain and don't vote disgust me. Even if a person disagrees with EVERY single candidate on the ballot they should at the very least vote for the candidate that is the LEAST offensive. To do otherwise is like being offered the choice of being shot in the foot or being shot in the head and not choosing which one you want because both suck :rolleyes:. |
yeah, voting for another party's candidate would help that candidate gain more attention. if you believed in such a person, you should go vote for them for support. but you can be disgusted all you want and others will disagree. i for one would not vote for someone unless they represented me in some way. you have a different outlook than me. to pick the least offensive is really pointless in my view. voting for someone is asking for them to be in power. i would do so only if i wanted this. you can make your statements but consider history and reality for a second. if in the end, your vote does not count for anything you actually believe in, why bother? |
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| DJ A.i |
| i would vote ... but i gotta get my U.S citizenship first... lol... first things first |
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| Trancention |
| Not 18 yet..so I cannot vote..but I follow politics as much as I can so that I can be well educated upon the trends and what is mudslinging so I can make an educated choice within the candidates...and what me and my mom agreed on the day before the last presidential election came true...we said that if Bush was elected..we would be in war within 2 years...so sad it came true.. |
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| drizzt81 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omegasox
It's not always a sign of apathy. I just choose not to vote because I don't know enough about the candidates. Then again, all the information we receieve through the media is usually false or exaggerated, so it's very hard to make an educated decision.
I'd much rather only those who do their research and understand politics vote, than every Tom, Dick and Harry voting by eeny-meeny-miny-moe. |
but would you not rather make SOME decision than none? Every time that you do not vote counts for at least two votes. 1 less for the candidate that you'd want and one extra for the candidate that you don't want, since you reduce the total amount of votes.
ps.: yes i vote by absentee ballot in germany. |
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| drizzt81 |
| quote: | Originally posted by umes23
if in the end, your vote does not count for anything you actually believe in, why bother? |
'cause you get to choose the lesser of the evils. i like the shot in head/ shot in foot analogy.
would you rather limp for a couple of weeks, or be dead? |
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| `pr0digy |
| Voting just shows that your part of the system... Don't vote, get everyone to NOT vote. When there's a "None of the above" option, THEN vote. |
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