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Internet slang, slowly, yet strongly affecting mordern english? (pg. 5)
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| daffodil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nosmo
I'm pretty sure both of these sentences require "Affected". The difference between the two words is that Effect is a noun and Affect is a verb. In both of the above examples, the word in question is used as part of a compound verb. Ergo, both are used as verbs so both require Affected. |
nope. i can't explain it clearly in my own words, so here it is straight from the associated press style manual:
| quote: | Affect, as a verb, means to influence: The game will affect the standings.
Effect, as a verb, means to cause: He will effect many changes in the company. |
anytime you want to check the usage, substitute the verb "to cause" for effect, and "to influence" for affect. don't forget to conjugate ;) |
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| EriK_V |
| what does OMGHI2U mean?? |
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| daffodil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Echo of Silence
Could he have said, "Internet slang has effectuated a change in modern language?" |
effectuated is one of the not-real words people have invented to make themselves sound smarter, like utilize. effect, instead of effectuated, means the same thing and keeps you from sounding pompous and windy. utilize is an overblown word for use.
concise writing makes you sound so much more intelligent. as a rule, the easier something is to read and understand, the harder it was to write. |
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| Nosmo |
| quote: | Originally posted by daffodil
effectuated is one of the not-real words people have invented to make themselves sound smarter, like utilize. |
Nope. Effectuated is a real word. Here's what Merriam-Webster had to say:
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One entry found for effectuate.
Main Entry: ef·fec·tu·ate
Pronunciation: i-'fek-ch&-"wAt
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): -at·ed; -at·ing
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You are absolutely right about the verb form of "Effect". That is a very fine distinction between that and the verb form of Affect and I was always taught to just use Effect as a noun for that reason. Kudos to you ;) . |
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| TrAnCeAkI |
| rofl its true!!!! but i read em as words lol like the rofl!!! i say raweful!!!!! lolololololl i say lol alot too :( omg I CANT SPEAKEDIT ENGLISH NO MORE!!!!!!:nervous: |
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| mndeg |
| when i was in california i heard this guy say LOL (lowl) rhymes with bowl, he was also gay literally |
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| daffodil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nosmo
Nope. Effectuated is a real word. Here's what Merriam-Webster had to say: |
oh, i don't doubt that it's a dictionary word, but so is "************."
| quote: | | You are absolutely right about the verb form of "Effect". That is a very fine distinction between that and the verb form of Affect and I was always taught to just use Effect as a noun for that reason. Kudos to you ;) . |
i wish i could take credit for that explanation! thanks for the kudos -- this kind of nonsense is my life and passion, commonly known as journalism ;) i think i know more esoteric grammar and usages than 99.9% of americans (at least). |
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| Nosmo |
| quote: | Originally posted by daffodil
oh, i don't doubt that it's a dictionary word, but so is "************." |
So what's wrong with "************" and "utilize," again? |
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| daffodil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nosmo
So what's wrong with "************" and "utilize," again? |
people use ************ to mean regardless. but the construction of the word creates a double negative. logically, using the rules of prefixes and suffixes, "ir-" and "-less" create a double negative and should cancel each other out. by rules of english grammar, the word should mean the opposite of what it does. it's on the same intelligence (and logic) level as terms such as, "ain't no" and "don't nobody."
utilize is using two extra syllables and four extra letter to sound like a pompous windbag when you're really just trying to say, "use." can you really tell me that "utilize" and "use" have different meanings or even shades of meaning?
yes, i'm fully aware that i'm a language snob. there's no need to tell me :) |
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| Nosmo |
| quote: | Originally posted by daffodil
people use ************ to mean regardless. but the construction of the word creates a double negative. logically, using the rules of prefixes and suffixes, "ir-" and "-less" create a double negative and should cancel each other out. by rules of english grammar, the word should mean the opposite of what it does. it's on the same intelligence (and logic) level as terms such as, "ain't no" and "don't nobody."
utilize is using two extra syllables and four extra letter to sound like a pompous windbag when you're really just trying to say, "use." can you really tell me that "utilize" and "use" have different meanings or even shades of meaning?
yes, i'm fully aware that i'm a language snob. there's no need to tell me :) |
That makes perfect sense to me. I don't think you're a snob at all. |
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| daffodil |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nosmo
That makes perfect sense to me. I don't think you're a snob at all. |
language snob, not people snob. there are lots of words that just aren't good enough for me ;) |
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| Nosmo |
| quote: | Originally posted by daffodil
language snob, not people snob. there are lots of words that just aren't good enough for me ;) |
That's what I meant--you're not a language snob. I totally think you're a people snob.
:p |
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